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episode 444 of screenwriters

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today in the program is a deep dive

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on one of my favorite movies of all time, 1995

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clueless that

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is all, are going to talk this

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in 2033 we will not be

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representing the current situation that we're in

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as far as you know everything is fine

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everything's just

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talking about louis it's a normal day

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it's a clueless day and

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for a premium members, we're going have a bonus talk

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about learning to drive which the four

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state key plot point in the sun playlist

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indeed about

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why we're talking about clueless, because

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you just re-watched it, i

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know this movie from watching it thousand

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times, to me, this movie's a masterclass

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in many things that we want to let

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our listeners i really appreciate i

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really think about tone and

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pov and release her house well

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it does everything the narration will

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get into the movie that would not

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the possible without it's narrator would

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i be able to hundred see inside your head i'm

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always in our the density of it's comedy

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like just the way it's joke joke joke there

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are no seen that are so close and

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it's also just a terrific adaptation so

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who's the course based on jane austen's ama

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it is it a weirdly faithful adaptation

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and yet such a smart adaptation so as we look

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at updating on projects clueless

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as a great model

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to talk about why

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the tone of clueless and

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be comedy a clueless in the characters

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and coolest work so well i think

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you have to start with one of the great

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heroes of american film comedy

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amy heckling yeah any just

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world amy how curling is mentioned

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right up there with billy wilder and

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harold ramis and every great mail

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director comedy ever because she that important

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i think so

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so as a writer and director the

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nominal work throughout this and also

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you look at the impacted on his hat i think you'd

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be hard to imagine a wicked are

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ugly without the clues

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are just toys and soil ahead

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of them just you look at golden the in wicket

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and at there is a template being forced

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by share includes that is so

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i think relevant to that's in terms of having

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a several characters who is charming

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and popular and yet still needs

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to grow and that feels like an obvious thing

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that of course the way it's or revitalize

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how we do a high school comedy in

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other way that clues is so important that these are

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characters who do speak like they

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are much more as who they really would be that

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me

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no it will incredibly important your whole generation

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of high school comedies right and

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and it was the second time than

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amy heckling did this mean the first time was fast

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times at ridgemont high same he had curling is

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such a good writer so sick and director kind

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of blows my mind so she made fast

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times at ridgemont high nineteen eighty two

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does well before clueless and

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that was a kind of early define

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or of what a high school com he should be sort of

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blue the doors off of whites high school

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portrayal was and also launched the career

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cameron crowe johnny dangerously

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is a terribly underrated

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and so therefore vastly awesome spoof

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movie that happens it

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just didn't connect at the time in the theaters but

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it's since become a rifle cult classics

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said there's your your laugh a minute vibe

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and she's just kind of amazing

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ads portraying families together

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portraying young adults

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and , absolutely right be the template that

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share creates has gone on a

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forward now when cigar

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glinda from wicked it it's so true

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because belinda share

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have this thing which is they

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are credible top your they're incredibly beautiful their

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self involved they

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are superficial but they're

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not bad some stern

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and that's the most and that's the thing

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about share that so fascinating is that

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sheath more the kind

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of accoutrements of

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accoutrements bad person except she wasn't

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bad suggest had me at her eyes

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open

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that like so is we've been but

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important for me for two different reason so this

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was a movie that i first saw when it came out

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and ever seen the theater but most

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remember seeing the second time so i'd driven

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as well as adults in my rusted out honda accord

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and by time as looking my third apart

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in los angeles i've gotten her to write

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the out his of harry fried worms i may

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have already started working on a wrinkle

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in time as i had enough money come again i was able

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to buy myself at least myself a

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volkswagen jetta which everybody in potential

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for the time at least is as simple seconds

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at other really cheap and seven

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i could sell my old honda accord and so on

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one saturday morning i sold my honda

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accord priced fifteen hundred dollars

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in cash rather cash money of address

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how the must get cash my head at one time and

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as i do you think that money to take all my friends

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to see clueless with me again so i

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was that the weather's were movies were thought twice in a

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weekend as as you ever taken

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that that honda accord monitored to see

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that movie the second point of

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connection to clues for me was on

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in two thousand and ten i was asked by out that

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the gay and lesbian film plus one off and asked if

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i wanted screen like i gagged cathartic

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a movie and and give a talk about it and

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site is clueless which seems like a weird with

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to pick because it's not on it's surface

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a game of either they argued in that

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but the senate's for his that's true idle

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who started know how good is that nine hundred

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and ninety ninety five every working

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in office emma gives us a leases summer soon

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as the stylus for shallow share horwitz

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who's well intentioned meddling this is a deeper

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revelations about friendship and forbidden love for

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x stepbrothers the to meet all right along

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the way she falls for the gay guy pursues

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the jerk and gets her soul a make over lewis

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is a blast of queer jason sunshine

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of odd , me at is it

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the it is a very important movie for

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a whole generation game and as well south's that

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another survey plants in action for

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clothes for me yeah ends

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as yeah ends guy

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i do remember

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then i saw the movie when it came out of course and so

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i was and we were pretty messy mates i

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was twenty three and

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i remember thinking that this was the maybe

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the first portrayal of

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the teenage gay

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young man that wasn't the

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gay if you know to gain it was accused

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of the guy says he was guess

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he i hate eat it came at a very

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right angle and so we'll talk about

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serve the christian character but they set up in

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a way that once you understand okay that

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oh i see what she was doing what he was

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doing break but it wasn't certain certain only

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gay character south so let's talk about

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how did script came to be so when we

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refer to the scripts the best skipped i've

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been able to find is an august nineteen ninety four

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script one hundred twenty three pages will have a link

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to that and shown us it very closely

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profit for the final script is there's

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a lot of by transcripts online a chance of

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a useless never look at transcripts only look at actual

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screenplays that writers have written a baxter

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and it is actually apparently wrote this

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as a tv pilot for to be so called no worries

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those litter be titled i was a teen is

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teenager and it was

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the share characters all the characters that are certain

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the story but it wasn't ama surprisingly

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so right right we've got his girl

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that completely happy no matter what happens as

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really getting is that kind of character but nothing happened with it

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fox pass on that they did get it things

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are falling through a very frustrated and

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so she started thing of the larger context

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the

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latham that nothing to go wrong and

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she went back to am i was in college

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she took it out we read it and she said unconsciously

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everybody in l a character that

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she took basically what she'd already

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served planned out for this no worries

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and sort of really , share an ama

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characters are built m r around it and

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it works just so brilliantly brilliantly

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and this would become the first of

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a long series of such adaptations

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this kind of kicked off a craze that led

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to lots of shakespeare

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for instance be attentive ahead about iraq

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lots of things being being turned into

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teenage comedies

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this was the first and i would argue

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the best and again

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there's this stroke of genius here

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where hacker laying she has

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laying vision of something and of love that nobody

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else saw it see this it see of these

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movies were as we get into the

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specifics of it will see this come up over and over

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it's such a great example of what

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i call a movie consistent with self

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see does not follow rules

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the all the time in fact lotta times

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it seems of break a lot of rules it can be

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episodic as hell it doesn't matter it

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is true to itself is such

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a thing unto itself and so i'm not

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surprised that for a while people

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were looking at this character or this kind

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of story even and thinking what

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is this but she knew

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i mean again hats off to amy harrowing unbelievable

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those are the movie opened attend my doors opening

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weekend there when i did make fifty

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six million dollars at the box office or

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which is good it did really well and so

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but i think it's how much longer life since that time

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because you watch the movie now

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and it's doesn't feel dated

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in the way you to set in a movie from that era

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to feel dated and the phone's been wrong

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right really read to very contemporary movie death

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know i mean it's actually remarkable how

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you can look at this movie through

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the lens of woke twenty twenty

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in you know what

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years big shock because

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it was written and directed

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by a woman so

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remarkably it is not soaking not soaking

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kind of massage honesty courses

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it's also based on a note

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i jane austen novel written by a woman's of

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it has a sensibility that it's but timeless

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and timely it it works really really well

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yeah so let's quickly go through how

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this will be maps up to ama

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arm and is also a do out of his grandmother pits

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can check out as well as have not seen a billion

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be curious to see how clueless

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influences are the notice of ama the

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sheer howard's character matches to am

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to am to the central character

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she's charming she's beautiful she's popular

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he can read a selfish becomes

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a thing or but she is able to grow

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and as retirement with glinda i see

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the characters who starts with a she

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sort seems to have everything and then she recognizes

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what she doesn't have and of that

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it's or the crisis he faces of the course of the story

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the , mean this is a great example of

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a character that's like a coiled

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spring spring the coil

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spring of of emma or share

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is that she is beautiful and

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she is a good person that her core

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and clearly as deserving of deserving and

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yet spends all of her time

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getting other people together in love

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which is in it's own way and interesting

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kind of defense mechanism i'm gonna work

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on making you happy it's and this

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way i don't have to have any vulnerability for

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myself but that's for

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coiled spring we all know from

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the beginning how that will end it doesn't

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matter see people get confused

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a think that predictability as bad

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predictability isn't the problem the

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problem is but sometimes something is predictable

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and also we have no interest in watching

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the coil uncoil spit

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in this we want to see it on coil we want

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to see that pop open and of course

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we get

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now next up we have josh

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who matches up to mr knightley so this

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is the love interests who has to seem

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like it's not a possible love interests at the start

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and so those it makes it a brother

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it like characters than a close family friend

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so therefore we're not be appropriate in

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this movie i did he is

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her stepbrother from america was

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over five years ago it's interesting that if

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my daughter as i've said we have a record

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that she's like cabin she paused for a step

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brother and i guess is weird some sort

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of but advice he wanted i think the most daring things about

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this movie and also in we watching it he

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recognizes how carefully heckling

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planted the seeds for this or that you you weren't ahead

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of it but you were actually fine with it when it happens

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arm and also how smartly

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written in how smartly played josh

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his character it it's tracks well

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in terms of where he's at and where you

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can sir see the story from his point of view even

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though he doesn't have you see

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that the whole movies from shared point of view thankfully

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but in the since we get with him we can see

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what is progresses yeah she'll give us glimpses

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from his point of view than , glimpses

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are usually him noticing essentially

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he catches share being good he

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notices he there's a a great moment

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where

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share outwits the college

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girl and or out knows

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because you're and that's a moment where amy

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shifts are camera over to to

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all rudd to see him noticing

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and letting that in which is smart spillway paul

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rudd i mean people talked about the site that he doesn't

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age split legitimately

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what the hell's and

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it's and it's kind of terrifying

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i read a looking at me

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again today it looks the his smoothed

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a bit a you as you have a clue as a looks like

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it he was had like a little bit of my god

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the guardian filters are put on him but

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otherwise is athens and present it's

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terrified and i think actually

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one , the things as interesting as i don't know how old

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he was when he was and clueless but

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he seems older looking than he should

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should think what happened was paul rudd was born

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at the age of thirty five but

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will always be thirty five

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verify

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that's a good choice to make a think yeah now

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be it's it's wonderful to watch me to them

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to get hooked there is a very strange

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premise that's put forth and

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amy does something that a lot of movies do

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where she essentially these are not a george

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you looking forward to the audience so

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today a plays shares dad shares

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mother died many many years ago before

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sharing the new her and

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then apparently share his dad gets married

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to some lady and that marriage and five

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years before this movie starts but for

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some reason he

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still likes having his stepson

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come over because he says you divorce the

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woman not the child yeah sure

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like really

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i mean i'm sure that happens but

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it was it it goes by very quickly

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to the point where honestly i was a little

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i to piece together exactly together see what was

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going on but once you kind of by

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it which is not a huge by the

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good everything's fine

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the characters are also brought through

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from ama there is the the

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woman who sea surface sets up in

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a love relationship so that's a misguided

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to quit miss taylor was western an ama

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on there's that object of her make over

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so let's tie or harry smith

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played by britney murphy who is just phenomenal this is

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parts there's the travis

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character brecon myers character who brecon it's

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fantastic in there and it's just

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before we cast him and co in his so

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different and so frightened us parts is parts

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public character in am in was is robert martin there's

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elton who scares the same it's not else in

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an ama this is actually why the characters actually

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feels the most like aristocracy

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it's operate and it's at one of the courtesy

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sort of most comes across like oh you're

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just an asshole running to start the i know

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he's a but he's clearly a bad guy and

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and christians character is probably

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causes massive to frank churchill again

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it is the how did a graduation

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and love and and the person she's going after

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who's not going to be available

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and and is a frustration

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the

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the and i share characters but but someone

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who seems like again it's the the

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prices seems like the appropriate love interest so

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that we don't aren't aware of who

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she should really be going for yeah the net

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a very smart kind of updating because the

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kernel of that is again exploring

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why somebody

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the opting for unavailable people

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or is opting to put

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other people in love together like for

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instance and instance the story

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the wonderful be know couple of teachers

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and it , get attention that

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coil it hard for her to make

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herself available to somebody

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that is available to her so it's

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all of a very smart updating

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has in the book and i'm cheating on your notes here to

16:44

zone read it in forever the

16:48

character that christian character that from

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was engaged so that's where he was not available

16:52

i think i think gays a much better choice

16:54

for some in nineteen ninety five

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so before we get into or a sequence

16:59

operate on it let's

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talk about your how them be works overalls you're on

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a macro level and let's start with talk about share

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as are pointed you character and especially her

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voice ever heard or it narration because to

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try to imagine this movie without the narration

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it's it's completely different experience

17:16

if you don't have the insight into what the characters absolutely

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he can see seems like a monster

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and if or , you see

17:23

with ask around inside you know that oh she's not

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mean that all is actually so

17:27

generous is so is his trying so hard

17:30

when i noticed his last time watching through it is the

17:32

narration it's all told i'm in the past

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like these are things that did happen so

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she's in the past tense except that ashes

17:39

narrating season aware

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of that are right in front of our

17:43

sociopathic oh i wonder who they have at my size

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of out of it's a really interesting choice

17:48

that height of shouldn't work and yet

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it works great answers it's like she's

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kind of watching the story

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with you that she's in the moment with you as

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is narrating yet so

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a her voiceover typically will

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explain why a senior but

18:04

see is happening social say

18:07

social decided i would go to the mall to make

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myself feel better

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read more or she

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will be talking about something after it

18:14

happened after the experiment

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with zone so failed i felt that blah

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blah so it's like she's

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kind of book ending these moments

18:23

the breaking of the fourth wall

18:25

with oh wonder if the have that in my size

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will be no surprise

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to anybody who is a

18:32

hacker lang san and who has seen

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johnny dangerously because she's

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so good at that sorta thing and seats

18:39

it's very easy to overdo it or

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to do it wrong leads and

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she did it beautifully there loved

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it

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the way so even as the cameras pushing

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through a place to say about linger on a sucrose barbies

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have shares hungry so it's it's a very

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the whole movie is her point of view and so

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even if it's the cameras mates were space it

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essentially shares point of view it's not yeah it's

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it's kind of us a lord and miller

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metal style access twenty

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years earlier yep know what's

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important know that shares that she's naive but

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she's not dumb and i think that's why the

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most important is it carried through from amateur this

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update that she had a very sophisticated vocabulary

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she will occasionally you use words incorrectly

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but overall she has it does an

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unrealistically really broke

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bust of command of language

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both in her voice over added hashes acid

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speaking amish is also good

19:30

at reading people like so miss something silly

19:32

of the miss christened being gay but

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she does have a sense of interpersonal

19:37

dynamics at when she's trying to set up with

19:39

guy service or hall she really does

19:41

have a sense of what's going to work with people so she

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has an emotional intelligence for other

19:45

people just as a half or herself

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yeah and that is an

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interesting line that amy walks with share

19:51

because at times she does show

19:54

that shares ignorant which is different

19:56

than done it's pretty clear

19:58

that as the dot this hard charging

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beverly hills attorney that she's inherited

20:04

are quite a bit of this

20:06

negotiation wisdom she's

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got a kind of a steel trap mind mean be

20:10

when she gets up and does her little oral

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reports in class

20:15

they're not so what they are they're ignorant

20:17

she has not done the reading dr she has

20:20

but , arguments themselves are actually quite

20:22

clever they're quite interesting

20:24

so she may not know that bosnia

20:27

for instance is not in the middle east but

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she does know quite a bit

20:32

and a seems that it seems of the lessons that

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she's learned in the past their know coming

20:36

source and she is learning

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she expressed the desire to learn so

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she's a mean it's very interesting

20:43

the in the beginning of the movie

20:46

echoing does really smart thing with leads

20:48

the distribution of report cards so

20:51

share has gotten the see in mister halls class

20:53

but that's the see that she's gotten

20:56

the implication of the other grades are great and she's in

20:58

argue about that great get it up but

21:00

she's already getting a geometry for instance

21:02

seasons she's a smart person that's a really

21:04

clever choice a name is part because what we don't

21:07

like is somebody that is superficial

21:10

and literally dumb in the sense of they don't

21:12

have the capacity to

21:14

get better or to to kind

21:16

of blossom into somebody wonderful that

21:19

is a limp spring to watch uncoil

21:22

indeed now with type of a little it

21:24

didn't start but what you so different that

21:26

this character first black plastic me

21:28

now character in a high school comedy is that

21:30

she is an extrovert she is completely

21:32

for an hour facing the she's

21:34

not is misunderstood kid who's overlooked

21:36

by others she's not pretty when she takes her glasses

21:38

off she's beautiful from frame one inches popular

21:41

from frame once and even starting

21:43

with all its advantages to still struggles

21:45

and that's a , different choice new

21:47

see in most most before

21:49

this point so i'm it's is was always

21:51

have remember even from the

21:53

inception how difference this

21:55

character this than what we use it would find

21:58

use

21:58

the kind of story and what

21:59

you continue to find after it came

22:02

out what youths that's kind of the story of

22:04

amy hacker wings career mean she always seem

22:06

to be ahead of the ball

22:08

the farmers setting up in arms

22:10

or the conflicts established in the world as

22:12

we can to sequences apartments or how quickly she's

22:14

able to subsets world that's you know it's important

22:16

we understand that share sees

22:19

herself in certain places the hierarchy of the school

22:21

she to find yourself in relationship to the

22:24

on and murray's relationship

22:26

the teachers of above all the boys

22:28

share the scottish with christian she's very

22:30

much aware of her social standing and or media

22:33

but he aspires to be higher she wants

22:35

like a college voicing procedures not been

22:37

above these other things and so that's

22:40

a crucial thing to understand about her and heckling

22:42

does a great job done enough by syndicate guess

22:44

yeah and she's also letting

22:46

us into a world that in theory

22:49

we were not familiar with so she's see

22:51

recognizes that share has to be

22:53

an ambassador for beverly hills ninety

22:56

ninety five were all the students

22:58

have had nose jobs or are

23:00

driving ridiculously fancy cars and

23:04

, is different they're so part of the

23:06

the comedy is just

23:08

the fact that we're in this strange place

23:10

it's been in that regard it's

23:13

kind of continuing what you

23:15

saw in beverly hills cop like

23:17

take gotham detroit put him in beverly hills

23:19

he's gonna look around ago what the hell's is crap so

23:22

she's doing that but she's doing that with some that

23:24

with part of it that's interesting

23:26

is not a fish out of water it's a fish in water

23:28

and the fish in water is showing us what the waters

23:31

like

23:31

so i always like to imagine

23:33

i quote what is it were a musical what was

23:36

the songs be and so is very

23:38

imagine the welcome to the world find the

23:40

first song and most movies another thing

23:42

let's set up the world and i actually did a

23:44

great job of setting up this is beverley hills this

23:46

is the high school this is the world and her friends

23:49

the next song would generally be her i want

23:51

song answers i want song is

23:53

that she wants love isn't as you are popularity

23:56

is a she wants to fix everything

23:58

and affects everybody wants to make the happy

24:00

answer sheets it has it's desire to bring

24:03

joy to all the people around her some her

24:05

father in a tie what you meet your dad

24:07

sort of heard her sing and

24:09

the realization see them to get to with that yes

24:12

it is it drugs to me that

24:14

i'm fixing towards yourself rather than cause

24:16

outside it's a really good way of thinking

24:18

about the said it's that that is that's

24:20

exactly how the musical would go there

24:22

would be a song called beverly hills which

24:24

would be all about the insanity of

24:26

insanity and then she would sing a song about all the

24:29

things that she wants to make better because

24:31

that's what she does because she's because happy wonderful

24:33

person she's like a mary poppins

24:35

looking for a family and yes

24:37

one of those things is that she does not want to see

24:39

and if and if to write alerts the songs she would

24:42

to talk about how she wanted to make her dad happy

24:44

and she wanted to bring these two teachers together and

24:46

she wanted to make this new girl on

24:49

as popular she is and she wants to exercise

24:51

coming back to when i want to six nice because

24:54

she's also the self

24:56

interest in there and it's

24:58

it is admirable i like it so

25:00

she's not as simple as just i'm

25:03

just joan of arc or something it's

25:05

all it's all wrapped up in a kind

25:07

of very real will to power

25:10

and of course and need to show that way to which makes me so

25:12

happy i'm i honestly

25:15

her i once on could as well be popular from

25:17

wicket i mean it is essentially that's what is trying

25:19

to do is trying to elevated status

25:21

of us around hurt and and transform

25:24

somebody else rather transforming herself exactly

25:26

so let's take a look at how

25:28

this works answer with sequence level because

25:31

watching the movie again as really struck by how

25:33

you can take a look at clueless as

25:35

the chunks of of movie it's something sequences

25:38

and really does it very clear goal for

25:40

what shares try to do in city sequences

25:42

south at moments it could feel like

25:44

i was episodic but there really is a guy

25:47

fieri careful plan behind with going here south

25:50

during the first ten minutes so much get

25:52

set up in the first ten minutes it's just a master classes

25:54

or of getting information out there so we

25:56

started shares house we see her

25:59

passions the me her dad

26:01

he felt the idea of joshua josh surrounds

26:04

the she said but you're hardly been married to his mother

26:07

and that was five years ago her

26:09

housekeeper from there we are

26:11

we are without her cheap with up dion

26:14

are best friends she's my friend

26:16

because we both know what it's like to have guilty jealous

26:18

of us are

26:21

we get to school at school read murray we

26:23

meet wallace shawn plants or hall meet alan

26:25

travis amber we establish

26:28

a christian is a student there in her quizzes

26:30

and a sharp yet bread so smartly done

26:32

so son released as as out of the blue happy

26:34

combat the house we sell for dead

26:36

mom with josh with

26:38

me it's also the first time really

26:41

it's opposite he has no idea what's going on the world

26:43

overall and at the end of that first

26:45

ten minutes we have her this

26:47

mission statement which is to improve her grades

26:50

and that's what house and set up our first montage

26:53

of her trying to get her grades

26:55

up and when she gets report card it's a

26:57

it's a great first ten minutes it

26:59

doesn't

27:00

stop it doesn't there's no sense

27:03

of confusion or wondering where you

27:05

are for all have been

27:07

really and screenwriting to

27:09

lose out there for charging

27:11

you money for their dumb books in their stupid

27:13

advice let us point out that

27:15

one of the things that they say over and over his don't

27:18

use voice overwhelms how about

27:20

this voice over his constant

27:22

his movies wall to wall voiceover

27:24

end when done well as

27:26

in this case not only his voice over

27:28

entertaining but it is such

27:30

a good way to compress information

27:33

quickly you can learn so much from

27:35

these ten minutes because she literally

27:37

telling it to you and doing so

27:39

doing a fun way you also

27:42

get also hint from this first ten

27:44

minutes that she has she has she

27:46

doesn't know she has a problem but you

27:49

know she has a problem her life as far she's

27:51

concerns is perfect

27:53

so this would be acceptable and perfection i like

27:55

to talk about she's and status everything's finds

27:58

me know she has a problem

27:59

problem that she has is that she

28:02

is not necessarily seeing

28:04

the world as it actually is for

28:06

eyes or little closed and willfully

28:08

so absolutely are

28:10

voiceover as you said at the start of the podcast

28:13

my times it is to set up where we're going or where

28:15

we came from mister like what the next action

28:17

will be but is it mona

28:20

school early i were she's walking dion

28:22

and like the on audio fade

28:24

and we go into her voice over we sorta hear her

28:26

thoughts about south it was so

28:28

important facts that students

28:30

from happening once we can be seen as seen in front of us

28:32

but also be hearing her perspective on

28:34

things arm and that becomes an important

28:37

tool that haggling uses throughout this

28:39

movie but she has to do it

28:41

early on that it's not beard run happens later

28:43

on yeah and there's a kind of an iconic

28:45

moment where talking about

28:48

been kind of delivering

28:50

to you at home or in the theater

28:52

what her problem is she saying i

28:54

don't want a d any of these

28:56

boys here they're not good enough for

28:58

me which is probably more about

29:01

herb just not that being

29:03

scared right we get the something off with that

29:05

would then of course one of the dubois comes

29:07

in to try and put his arm around her and she pushes

29:09

them away out of frame and says as

29:12

if there is one

29:14

of the great cinema moments cinema mean

29:16

it's just burned and all of our brains

29:19

so are are incredibly

29:21

great for ten minutes in society that

29:23

her personal mission is to get her grades are so

29:25

this is the first problem that had been presented to our

29:27

characters that the admissions jess

29:29

undertake her quest is to get her

29:31

grades improved and not to actually doing

29:34

extra work but argue her way up

29:36

and so it's sort of montage resist talking

29:38

to a teacher's about what's brown her life

29:40

she's talking to julie brown play her pe teacher

29:43

to sign him misguided arms he's trying

29:45

to convince the sir hall that see

29:47

deserves better grades and she's looking for

29:50

a waiting list or hall to budge who seems

29:53

to be the most difficult person and that's where they

29:55

had a idea of okay how we

29:57

get mister paul be overwhelmingly

29:59

happy that

30:00

he will it noodle improve and therefore

30:03

i can raise migrate so it is what

30:05

, i had noble goal is such a nice

30:07

person fall not as selfish

30:09

mode of underneath it was his seat of so that

30:11

migrates will improve correct there's almost

30:13

something cynical about her approach to live it's

30:15

the way see matches close together

30:18

in the morning in her seriously

30:20

a visionary touchscreen armed

30:24

so there's something a little cynical

30:26

it's easy for her right the world actually

30:29

is very easy for her she's got it all

30:31

figured out and in and very smart

30:33

dramatic way

30:35

amy does here is give

30:37

share another easy

30:39

victory and because the easier

30:42

the victory seem to more shocking

30:44

and distressing it will be when she

30:46

doesn't get the victory absolute

30:48

what her normal tricks stop working right

30:51

now be as devastating so yes it

30:53

is where a superhero movie this very where you

30:55

see the superhero easily defeat

30:57

an early villain it's way see them for being

30:59

incredibly competent at their job to

31:02

that wedding fall apart later on you understand

31:04

like oh this is really remarkable

31:06

that this thing that should work does not work

31:08

anymore exactly now

31:10

nothing is driving lessons and josh

31:12

those up starting about fifty minutes into

31:14

the duty army he says the as

31:16

articulates know key theme here

31:19

i've never seen you do anything that isn't ninety percent

31:21

selfish then resonates

31:23

with her and as yeah see ya next day at school

31:26

would you call me selfish not your face

31:30

so while she's

31:32

starting to question like why she's doing what

31:34

she's doing she's ah she does have success as it

31:36

hails the hero at hero school this

31:38

was when i'm a pretty easy thing for her to do

31:41

her grades improved her father's proud

31:43

of father's the see if they'll to get her grades up

31:45

without doing sir works strictly to

31:47

on the merits of her arguing

31:50

that mean simple kind of dramatic

31:52

stuff here's this is somebody who

31:54

are only does good things

31:57

for purposes that accrue to her own benefit

32:00

it's not that she's mean

32:02

about it mean the things that she does are

32:04

good she does a beautiful thing for

32:06

mr hall miss geist

32:08

the to the you know their grades on for if it's

32:11

about the hearse and there is

32:13

this other notion that maybe you could

32:15

do good things when it doesn't occur to your benefit

32:17

at all which is when we introduced

32:20

high services ties the new project

32:22

i like sharing guess nothing

32:24

out of helping tie really a ditch

32:26

isn't set out to sort of

32:28

been up to the altai because it's can improve her social

32:31

setting aside she sort of tidies her and

32:33

wants to improve her social standing

32:35

south's this is the pretty murphy character arriving

32:38

at nursing mother that happens pretty murphy's characters

32:40

that she had a scene with travis i'm

32:43

pretty meyer omelets of one a few sir

32:46

the hippie of easy as well i threw the about this little

32:48

brief moment together in the cafeteria lines and

32:50

without okay they actually probably

32:52

do belong together and we're audience

32:55

are told us and share doesn't see

32:57

it yeah and i and

32:59

i that this is still i would argue

33:01

this is still in the general area

33:03

of

33:04

not totally charitable

33:07

charities because it

33:09

is a project it is fun

33:12

the idea here's a little pygmalion esque

33:14

i'm gonna rescue you

33:16

and make you wonderful because that's what i

33:18

can do and josh does essentially

33:21

say it's says exactly her that

33:23

she's that shares treating tie like

33:25

she was a barbie doll and i think that's rights

33:28

but the same time sure also

33:30

is the one person willing to do that

33:32

as opposed to the meter girls like

33:35

amber who just want to reject her so

33:38

again fascinating line at amy

33:40

walks with sheriff's she's not bad

33:42

but she's not yet totally

33:44

good and it's really smart be done

33:47

so when she says no respectable

33:49

girl actually dates them talking about sooners

33:51

i travis the on says it

33:53

gives her sense of control in a world filled with chaos

33:56

that's why she's trying to make every effort sense of control

33:59

and his jaw the he says you know you've

34:01

never had a mother's they're acting out of that parker

34:03

a license or farm it all as likes and again

34:06

, it's hard to try to the mother who's not a character

34:08

but it's a solicits like an ideal a paragon

34:11

that's share aspires to be like

34:14

to taking care of her father the way she would be a

34:16

tad it's her mother would be taking care of the dad

34:18

so i again says aspiring

34:20

something was kind of falling short short

34:23

aspiring to something and yet

34:25

also there is a kernel of fear

34:27

there's and and you see it come up again

34:30

went well you don't the can't know respectable

34:32

girl dates them whoa okay

34:34

we'll who does the respectable girl date in the

34:36

school because share your not dating any

34:39

of them and you've written all them off

34:41

as idiots and that there must be better

34:43

guys big that aren't high school guys but the not

34:45

necessarily looking for them either it's

34:48

more like you are not

34:50

quite ready to they're

34:53

your heart to someone exactly

34:55

so they conspire to try to set

34:57

up tie with else and we

35:00

as an audience see that alden really has no interest

35:02

in tied at all this is is playing

35:04

along because she's really indices and share

35:06

we don't know at the start how big

35:08

are creepy is is really quite a creep

35:11

this even six it's the party the house party services

35:14

hours solace or like what again

35:16

normal life is life for these kids

35:18

at a valley party watching this

35:21

now it's strictly that you know

35:23

again i'm looking at this as a dad but

35:25

i pick the drinking and the pot use

35:28

would be harder things that it's sort of get through

35:30

it a p g thirteen movie now than they were

35:33

for had to lay back and ninety five yeah i'm

35:35

not sure how that works

35:38

exactly now but it did

35:40

strike me again that staggering

35:42

who was always such a big agree

35:45

anthropologists she sat

35:47

in classes and in beverly hills high school

35:49

i believe to just you

35:51

know immersed herself and that's the

35:53

way that enough she the benefit of cameron

35:55

crowe and ridgemont high

35:58

so she's then did this and

36:00

it seems honestly like if you take

36:02

if you change the music in the close the

36:05

party is not far off from what would

36:07

be now there is a vaguely casual

36:10

pot use known really is like pulling

36:12

out box and a

36:14

and people are drinking and no

36:16

one's like only got drinking it's just

36:19

it's fascinating how good

36:21

she is it that

36:22

the great so what's import about

36:24

the party is that again receive stuff

36:27

it out of her control and self

36:29

l now smarter enters a periodic who's gonna

36:31

ride with who and he

36:33

makes most or her she rejects them is

36:35

how the car gets brought a gun points so

36:38

sheath little victories and then i some big defeats

36:41

ourself me how to call joss to

36:43

pick her up in a car she is

36:45

annoyed by the scroll the josh dating she

36:48

gets to make her hamlet referenced and

36:50

and proof this go wrong she sees

36:52

the of from the the car she watches joss

36:54

kiss the girlfriend and i feel weird about

36:56

it and southsea or stabs in the third

36:59

the lot of things happening in that sequence for

37:01

it so it's fascinating when

37:04

it's , smart from is when the chips are

37:06

down down shares life is wonderful

37:09

nothing ever goes wrong even the fiber she's driving

37:11

around that a license and smashing into fire hydrants

37:14

nobody ever calls or calls i mean she

37:16

she gets away with it is white privilege yet know she

37:18

mean literally she is the embodiment of privilege

37:21

if he made the movie now you could call it's privilege

37:23

because that's what she has she's rich and whites

37:26

and everything and beautiful and everything

37:29

goes great for her and seer something's

37:31

gone terribly wrong and

37:34

what does she does see instinctively

37:36

goes for josh and

37:38

that's a sign already know if anybody

37:40

at that moment watching this movie doesn't know that

37:43

these two were going end up together they need to go

37:45

home price because it's obvious

37:47

what happens in the car in that little moment where

37:50

amy should repeal the to all red and

37:52

he appreciates that shares

37:55

corrected his girlfriend on the hamlet reference do

37:57

you know what's gonna happen says that fact that shares

37:59

looking

37:59

them as they kiss and having this weird feeling that

38:02

she doesn't understand you know what's gonna happen

38:04

and this is a sign of really good movies

38:07

and particularly really good romances

38:10

it doesn't matter that we know

38:12

what matters is how bad we

38:15

want to see it happens and

38:18

amy her growing is doing such

38:20

a brilliant job of slow

38:22

will increasing our desire

38:24

to want see it happen if it happened here

38:26

we'd be like oh not

38:31

good enough we wanted to

38:33

happen later

38:34

the shouted a share my elderly have

38:36

romantic feelings but before she has romantic feelings

38:38

she also has sexual feelings and this is the the

38:40

sequence starting up a twenty five forty

38:42

five sixty five hour were rash

38:44

talking about sex on and

38:47

without the shares a burgeoning we have the

38:49

arrival of christian who becomes like on

38:51

this is this obviously who she should be

38:53

in love with because he's fading

38:56

in and unusual and doesn't feel like a high school

38:58

boy all again resurgent limited

39:00

brace appeal v we see of josh

39:03

watching share come down and said it

39:05

is recognizing that she is a sexual character

39:08

within this story on this is not just

39:10

is sort of fairy shell princess there's actually a

39:12

sexual character who wants to have sex

39:15

i'm and dot is a again

39:17

sort of a groundbreaking thing for a

39:20

young woman to be the one who is

39:22

trying to initiate sexual activity and

39:24

not because she's desperate because

39:26

it's you know uglier that this obstacles

39:28

in a way of her are having that she could

39:31

at any point have done it the now suddenly wants

39:33

it yeah there was

39:36

there was line in in the television

39:38

show beverly hills nano to a know and i'm

39:40

gonna presumed was it predates this

39:42

movie they were there is

39:44

a whole discussion about prom night and

39:47

sex and it was really

39:49

gets really interesting because it wasn't

39:51

in the usual format of guy

39:54

wants sex girls like yes so

39:56

he did it was happening there's

39:58

happening certain refreshing frank

40:01

miss about out happens here it's really

40:03

interesting choice to have tie

40:05

not be emerging at all yeah

40:07

and and have share be the

40:09

virgin and also it sure doesn't

40:11

she just like was a bit about being version there's no

40:13

like she that's usually defensive about it it's

40:15

speeches veers off of the normal

40:18

path of how all those scenes go there

40:20

are two thousand bad seems there and

40:23

amy didn't write one who had a really good

40:25

seen i mean look

40:27

the girl walked down the stairs and the dress

40:29

i'm not sure in that moment why

40:31

paul rudd suddenly goes oh wow look

40:33

at her own

40:36

, phone is so

40:38

beautiful see so mind numbingly

40:40

beautiful and this movie

40:42

then she's always hot and like every

40:44

outfit is every , of what i

40:47

would be quite sure what was going

40:49

on there exactly other than save

40:51

near you know okay fine guess

40:54

i think the argument be that it's a

40:56

with a caught by surprise and that it was that it

40:59

grown up beauty than sort i think suit

41:01

v that she is currently wearing such as always wearing

41:03

short skirts but this isn't that this is a survey

41:05

in the white calvin klein draft this as a

41:08

look that he hadn't seen before even

41:10

being generous but , theft

41:12

and will be like that is not how straight men

41:14

workspaces to say that's so

41:16

oh oh oh a calvin klein kind of health

41:18

hazard i well now i

41:21

mean she's so i meet again like

41:24

literally mind bogglingly

41:26

beautiful bogglingly this movie of system remarkable

41:28

thing as are here says raptors testing

41:30

the fences line how much

41:32

time would be to have be to type tagging along

41:34

josh you are not my brother right right

41:37

out again so is this couple

41:39

of does two things one it it's stop

41:41

losses that like while there's it's a little problematic

41:44

than two together they're not it's not technically

41:46

wrongs than be the together but more importantly

41:48

we see that josh acid is interested

41:51

yes as she can't read doubt at all

41:53

and so it's it's sorry

41:55

it is march and when he says

41:57

how much from would it be to have a brother to tag along really

42:00

thing is you , see me

42:02

like as a brother only right like

42:04

a much technically a brother to am i because

42:06

of the because i am than oh and

42:09

, he gets me answer he once the

42:11

fact that he's even asking the question means

42:13

that he doesn't feel about

42:16

her like she's a sister

42:18

he said sequence i will tall

42:20

and overwhelming a penis was

42:23

his allies you said you are but it's system

42:25

as system as point in this is sort of like on

42:27

but i'll he would describe as like the rocky shores

42:30

this done some has a very difficult sequence

42:32

in the movie because you're not quite as easy help

42:34

not the and the second act yet but there's

42:36

a lot stuff going on on the so he

42:38

does this all so so loud south

42:41

is a sequences is often a split

42:43

it often does out there of which is dion

42:45

and murray and share in the car indians

42:47

driving and dastardly get on the freeway and

42:50

yes you members that are on the freeway bastard

42:52

and it's are like i'm very natural panic offer

42:54

this people that like that seems actually really

42:57

important completely independent of the driving

42:59

which is more is like on our prisons

43:01

get like know how can you see

43:03

this and basically a pointing out

43:05

that that share admits a crucial

43:07

fundamental thing about it's a nice black woman

43:09

oh that's right it does make a lot of sense that

43:12

seen could have happened anywhere but

43:14

by stating it in this driving seen

43:16

this is a lot more going on so it's

43:18

taking a course is that could take place in

43:21

a high school hallway and giving it a greats

43:23

in space to happen in it's i

43:25

think it's the best seen the movie i think

43:28

it's the best team in the movie because

43:31

as you say a this interesting revelation

43:33

comes out which unlocks a certain thing

43:35

in shares mind but

43:38

, flows into a legitimate

43:40

we laugh out loud set piece and

43:42

then the laugh out loud set piece

43:45

proves wide deserve to be there wasn't

43:48

just random noise to make you

43:50

less the point of it was

43:52

that her friends are

43:54

actually in love yeah and

43:57

that's a huge deal then

43:59

see

43:59

she understands now what

44:02

love really looks like and what it means which

44:04

is basically i take care of you

44:07

when you are scared and when you're

44:09

freaked out i calm you down and i tell

44:11

you tell you a really great jobs these

44:13

to do who are

44:15

look i mean it seems like they're just

44:18

comic relief side characters but

44:20

deanna murray are not

44:23

just say relief comic characters they

44:25

are exemplars because

44:28

once you strip away all the baloney of them

44:30

arguing need each other but who cheated on who

44:32

are him saving his head or you that

44:34

nonsense the web each other

44:37

and that is such a great

44:39

way to do that to use

44:41

comedy to create madness

44:43

and then use the madness to create ceilings

44:45

and then have the feelings impact the hero

44:48

yeah and but but sure stealing here is

44:50

jealousy she's she's jealous of their relationship

44:53

and she interviews what they have and

44:55

and then she and was tie because when tie

44:58

hazard near death experience with the unrealistically

45:00

old a man or or

45:02

off the as it'd be a the west side pavilion

45:05

side pavilion because she refused rescue her

45:07

she becomes like the hero of the school and

45:10

share so they feel finds herself or shoved

45:12

aside now that being shoved aside

45:14

it's like sort of a brady bunch of moment like we've seen that

45:16

mom before but it's so specific to which

45:19

shares feeling so that plus the anna

45:21

marie and relationship fix she suddenly she's

45:23

not the queen anymore says dot on

45:25

top and she now more that she wants

45:27

things she doesn't have a she does know

45:30

how to guests and that's a very

45:32

new place for share harvested be asking

45:34

her eyes are opening to what it's like

45:36

to not win

45:38

without even trying the first

45:40

time the movie she's walking out the door and

45:42

there's a guy that she fell for and now

45:44

not only can snag get him she feels like an idiot for

45:46

not realizing it's for best friends

45:49

are in love and away the she's never known and might

45:51

never will know for a little barbie

45:53

doll has outstripped her the

45:55

the pupil as become the master and

45:58

she in general well fields

46:00

last she is no longer the person

46:03

she was mrs sort of the you

46:05

know how to how to make a movie podcast

46:08

lesson here she's not who she was

46:10

it is not yet ready to be who she supposed

46:12

to be she's lost literally

46:14

to the point of doing that classically shaving

46:17

of walking around and

46:20

moping and going where what

46:22

happened to me it's been fs

46:24

well and well and and crucially right before then

46:26

driving test establish that's an important in

46:28

a thriving up she failed the driving test

46:30

attacker italy and and she's

46:33

she's failed it's a minute she couldn't talk or way out

46:35

of the i dislike her normal skills

46:37

just don't work anymore she comes

46:40

back home she sees ati hat

46:42

with josh and and ties as i i

46:44

really like josh they get me started in charge

46:46

and i status like the nice in her arm

46:49

but the actual words given to it are

46:51

your version who can't rise and

46:54

it's just the most brutal thing a person

46:56

could say or a summons yeah and

46:58

that driving instructor

47:00

is an important character because see

47:03

is reality

47:04

the most will be called mr reality because

47:07

she starts in or thing and he's like on are

47:09

no you don't understand i'm sacks and reality

47:12

and you're not getting what you want there's

47:15

literally nothing in the world can make that happen why

47:18

do we why are there so many new yorkers

47:20

is showing up peddling , looks

47:23

like super new york guy teaching

47:26

doing dmv tests in in in

47:28

beverly hills and an and and

47:31

ellington's razor thin out by the way there's

47:33

and i forgot to mention also just

47:35

sometimes to mention they pick

47:37

out like weird and things that we have

47:40

changed in terms of the way movies

47:42

are made that is just off the

47:44

topic of the writing their ,

47:46

a party scene at the concert

47:48

you know when she's still trying to seduce christian

47:51

old arrested and it's and

47:53

on a band and they're playing and then you know classic

47:56

sort of tech mcclain pullback to reveal the

47:58

crowd dancing and you see or

47:59

footsteps baseball

48:02

, didn't like weird shop we footsteps

48:04

as if anyone could hear footsteps

48:08

footsteps the middle of a concert yeah it is

48:10

such a and it just reminded me like stab

48:13

at speeds to do stuff like that because it is

48:15

just like before we people were other minds

48:17

and nobody is saying it's hits the pacific the

48:20

raving i love to sell of

48:23

this arm and then we get our last

48:25

big sequences the realization so this

48:27

sequences the share walkie to beverly

48:29

hills and suddenly realizing oh

48:31

my god i love josh as it is the moment

48:33

where the voiceover and realities

48:36

are merge and it was

48:38

her in her head actually give

48:40

voice to that she actually does

48:42

love josh once you do that

48:44

information she gets her father as he very

48:46

biased statistically that saw concert in general

48:48

that the theoretical guys we watched

48:51

him began i was struck by sir of how

48:53

much i'm the father the

48:55

were asic the josh real

48:57

that's from the day or start from under it is

48:59

it is all that yes yeah he's like the

49:01

that classic mentor character's already seen

49:04

the movie so he has no from playing his role

49:06

but i mean we just as i'm the go love

49:08

to have party and party makes your says okay he's

49:10

just standing as as little smile

49:12

after like i know what's going on

49:15

the class again was a little weird

49:19

or , but but

49:22

answers decision her resolution is that

49:24

this time i'm gonna make over my soul and

49:26

which is kind of with it's the same

49:29

machine did you realize that started the she actually needs

49:31

to dress that desire

49:33

to fix improve people to herself france's

49:36

look for the things you can do to help other people

49:38

that have no gain for her own

49:40

self and so it's still funny because he

49:42

doesn't as you'll have a good sense of issues and know

49:45

that else digital don't meet her water skis

49:47

but she does have a sense a she's

49:50

trying to do to improve herself in ways

49:53

that with that seen before see and try

49:55

to make us trying to make amends as well right and

49:57

she's not doing yet to

49:59

try and

49:59

josh

50:01

she's just doing it she didn't expect

50:03

that she can have josh what

50:05

she considers his that

50:08

she's just not been correct she finally

50:10

embraces the new way of being and

50:13

and becomes that person m trump during

50:15

the same thing is making amends he's going to twelve

50:17

steps people are growing up and changing

50:20

me important thing is that she's using

50:22

her powers to fix

50:24

things that are not going to recruiter

50:27

benefit at all very much

50:29

very much like what bill

50:31

murray is doing and groundhog day when he

50:33

finally accepts it and he just starts

50:36

taking piano lessons and helping

50:38

the elderly keynote of humans as

50:40

he just starts to do things to

50:42

help people no matter what just cause

50:45

ahmed is also important the reconciliation

50:48

with tie it's not all share

50:50

apologizing like thai recognizes

50:52

that she option messed up to and

50:54

they pick com two and a place

50:56

the middle rather than share amd of go all the way

50:59

to tie so against

51:01

, isis recognizing these characters are

51:03

suman and are not simply heroes

51:05

or villains at it that's that's more complicated

51:08

between the characters yes

51:10

i'm and then we finally get to the

51:12

sea with josh to this is a scene on a staircase

51:16

which is a much longer seen that remember it being

51:18

it's a long conversation between the two of them really

51:21

smelly done held mostly in close

51:23

ups in massive close ups much more naturalistic

51:26

yeah dialogue than usual and

51:28

faggots you like are you saying are care about me

51:31

ads on they get into the kiss and

51:33

a it's it's what you're hoping for

51:36

a is she maintains suspense

51:38

through it like you don't know planet

51:40

like how really it's this kiss you soon what's

51:42

going to happen then if and if i did happen i

51:45

it is just right

51:46

then we have a lizard your and moment at it doesn't

51:49

just and on a kiss well what before written

51:51

the a before we go past because bad to say

51:54

i cried

51:55

and the question is why why

51:57

why why would i cry

51:59

there and in thinking about

52:02

it it was alicia

52:04

silverstone space as

52:07

she finally understood but

52:09

she was loved

52:10

and that

52:13

, amazing and she did such

52:15

a beautiful job this , character

52:17

who i think appreciated that she

52:19

was popular she was liked

52:22

boys were attracted to her

52:24

she was missing loves

52:27

and she gets it from this

52:29

guy who she admires so much been who she was

52:31

not expecting to ever and it happens

52:34

after she screws up again

52:37

so , us this point

52:39

where a means means did

52:41

logically makes no sense no they're

52:43

working there helping dad and

52:46

and his lawsuit he's not there so

52:48

it's her and it's charge them than the them

52:50

worst law associate

52:53

with us who yells at her because

52:55

she's mislabeled something meanwhile

52:57

i'm like dude you work like her

52:59

dad are you doing

53:01

man like you call you're an idiot stupid you're

53:03

not a job tomorrow but regardless

53:07

he's there to do that so that josh

53:09

can defend share to but also to

53:11

blame sure low and it's really

53:13

important that happens because

53:15

if that is not then

53:18

josh walks up to her and says you know what

53:20

i've noticed you doing all these wonderful

53:22

things you're great let's

53:24

kiss and then they kiss and you're like

53:26

okay the he

53:28

does it when she

53:30

is at maybe her lowest

53:32

lowest yeah she's in tears and

53:34

she's failed despite tried do good things

53:37

and that's when he lets her know that

53:39

he loves her anyway and

53:41

that to me that's why

53:43

, cried and her face when she realizes

53:46

it is so perfect and her her

53:48

those big eyes or despite you

53:51

just feel for her it's feel for a good at

53:53

such a good seen know it's it's really well done

53:56

and and you're absolutely right without

53:58

these set up to that

53:59

the moment it there has and

54:02

the impact you don't see eat of see

54:04

that oh the point of a radical

54:07

a ship is that that person's also therefore you

54:09

when you're we're down where you are d ah

54:11

has just gotten off the freeway on

54:13

that that's when you need that really not yet the

54:16

has many who's watching out for you at

54:18

those moments is offers on yeah so

54:21

on as estate the lindsay duran moment her

54:23

her logic is always that it's not about winning football

54:26

game it's about these the moment and

54:28

human resources , as

54:30

, as a douglas yeah so

54:32

that is this wedding and was also ties

54:35

the other

54:36

the then so we get to see mr

54:38

hollande it's guys get married on get to sit

54:40

out nice ah you get to see

54:42

sort of a server normal order restored

54:45

so it's it's a beautiful party of when looks

54:47

great and around stressed out the quick

54:49

resolution in arms because the bouquet

54:52

it feels like a good have dot

54:54

dot dot it's not sort of now from

54:56

the time for everything would be perfect if you're like

54:58

everyone's where they need to be at the end of this

55:01

yeah i mean a people who are exposed me to

55:03

gather together it's a very conventional

55:06

ending it it's it's not actually

55:08

adding anything if you

55:10

think about it the you could have

55:12

ended the movie and the to them kissing

55:14

but it's a comedy and

55:17

, is need a little bit of a joke at the end and

55:19

so there's a little bit of a jokes jokes

55:22

know on bugging to paul rudd

55:24

doing his best i'm a white guy and

55:27

guy , did a little bit of of just laughter

55:29

and a kind of waiting seven jet we easier out

55:31

so that you go out and theater with smiles

55:34

and laughing it's basic literally

55:36

i think she gave people a moment to get

55:38

the hague use out white way the tears and smile again

55:40

and and it was a smart choice in that regard

55:43

but still and always

55:45

with relationship final shot the to them kissing

55:47

perfect willis

55:50

written and directed by amy screwing

55:52

that's an interesting movie so thank you crisis

55:55

nice deep dive with you on clueless edible

55:57

remain what are my favorite movies as i sat with

56:00

and years when you're down the road it'll still

56:02

hold up as to say a really great

56:05

not , a time capsule is it doesn't feel

56:07

so so five it's

56:09

feel like this is this kind

56:11

of relationship story and will

56:14

have the same lessons to matter when you're smith parker

56:16

smith mean if it if it can hold up after twenty

56:18

five years five think it's years i permanent pulled

56:20

up i agree i , have

56:22

one cool thing by our by were cool thing is

56:24

in the folder pixie cut it a listen to it have

56:26

you heard of eighty sounds knew about a detail

56:28

know sweetie sound is

56:30

a way of mixing sounds so that

56:33

it feels like it's basically

56:35

oriented in a very different way so to the

56:37

same way that augmented reality what

56:39

gives reality sense of plate and space on

56:41

this does it for sounds so take

56:43

a listen to the club i haven't there's

56:46

actually sample from actually billie eyeless song

56:48

in cook and in were to play a sample the

56:50

right now

57:29

okay

57:31

wow

57:32

craig was a i mean that that's

57:35

astonishing isn't it wow

57:37

so

57:38

the right nine jeffrey current events cast

57:40

semi sutcliffe and so

57:43

find blinded he said it was

57:45

a really amazing stands for him cause he felt his eyes

57:47

tracking just sort of fall the sounds i'm

57:49

in i'm a so in

57:52

a way it feels like cheating because i sometimes it is just panning

57:54

things from one side to another side but

57:56

you only have two ears so you honestly

57:58

arguing that all the your brain

58:00

is it out where things must be his faith

58:02

based on the time he between when

58:05

different years hear things so again

58:08

it's probably only works and headphones

58:10

some your the us in our hearts it probably

58:12

isn't doing quite the same thing ray of

58:14

but is this remarkable that remarkable that and it's

58:16

not the the planning part is the panning part

58:18

but what what the

58:20

what that does that i've never experienced

58:22

before is created distance yeah

58:25

without reducing volume yeah

58:27

when i first played athletic oh no i i must

58:30

that i must be playing the spectrum i phone

58:32

rose from headphones effects i could hear it off

58:34

at a distance like oh i know it it's it is through

58:36

my head it's yes so it feels

58:38

like

58:39

you're hearing something at full volume but

58:42

that full volume is halfway

58:44

across the room is that is weird is

58:46

that while like that how places it's psychologically

58:49

far from you that's a part

58:51

of just kind of mind blowing married cool

58:54

so the we work in hollywood

58:56

we briefly some of the the greatest sounds

58:58

tires and technicians so it's kind of

59:00

stuff is not new to them and if you look at

59:02

like officer crunch recent films he

59:05

does this hurt stuff where he puts things

59:07

in really as in places in a room that i've

59:09

never heard it into the in my headphones

59:12

done so remarkably my last

59:15

great at a rate i think beautiful lied to

59:17

cool things a sweet not one but who

59:19

cool things which is normally

59:22

type zero sort of the big dealt with so

59:24

one of them is something that anyone

59:26

can get em one of them is something that only

59:29

a few people can get

59:30

though mans too cool

59:32

things we'll start with the easy ones

59:34

that anyone can gets john how are your hands

59:37

doing a my hands

59:39

are dry so i i have a hand cream that

59:41

as a in front of me now that i mean to apply while

59:43

you tell me about your solution okay so

59:45

everyone's hands are getting battered getting

59:48

battered backs of my hands were the because i'm

59:50

i'm thinking that over the course of my life i

59:52

may be watched the backs of my hands thoroughly

59:54

about twice the rate i mean like

59:56

never knew that that was part of the whole thing but now

59:59

of course we have

59:59

they were getting

1:00:02

super itchy and sort of rash he

1:00:04

to the point where point was dreading wash my hands which oversees

1:00:07

not an option right now

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so i went around poking around looking

1:00:11

for good solutions and i landed

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on

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the product called o'keeffe's

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working hands and cream

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is for sale on the amazon

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and that's okay eat okay eat

1:00:24

the oh keeps working in san fran sears while

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of the stuff so much

1:00:27

the it has no smell

1:00:30

none zero it

1:00:32

smells like air that is so important

1:00:34

to me i hate the stuff that smells i hate

1:00:37

it when smells and a hate it when they when it

1:00:39

doesn't have added perfume it just smells like weird

1:00:41

goop

1:00:42

no smell

1:00:43

you

1:00:44

i used very little of it and it's not

1:00:46

a sorority cream i am so grossed

1:00:48

out by anything that feels oily and

1:00:51

kind of lotion the

1:00:53

is the texture more like of

1:00:56

like the an oreo filling korea

1:00:58

sniff so you to just a little bit and you

1:01:00

rub it in and it disappears

1:01:02

pretty quickly it doesn't leave you

1:01:04

all greasy a nasty

1:01:06

it doesn't ever smell it'll are just disappears

1:01:09

then the next morning

1:01:12

like

1:01:13

cured

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and so i do this on to reunite

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it works so well i

1:01:18

wanted so much so you're having

1:01:20

trouble with your hands your hands looking for solution keeps

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working hands hand cream

1:01:25

cause twelve dollars and thirty three cents

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and given the oh nuts for it a

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two pack and

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, the amount that use which is tiny

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i think it should last you a letter letter

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i guess is very i'm you try yours but i also

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recommend this is gonna be of my one for thing i've i

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forgot to national science my

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friends and gets nearby and sofie recommended his

1:01:46

hand cream months ago authorities

1:01:48

had it before i need it is wash my hands

1:01:50

on times i've spent the first thing

1:01:52

called com mouse he's also efsa tools

1:01:56

it's and it's does have some sell to it it's of

1:01:58

mediterranean so it's as if this

1:01:59

the really like slate ocean smell

1:02:02

to it armed but i actually like a lot it's

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all the links to that mission a swell excellent

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are either way your hands will be covered

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okay now for the very

1:02:11

few of you

1:02:12

that have a vr headset

1:02:15

i mentioned the quest i think on her i'd be arduous

1:02:17

close your eyes that one my uncle think it was

1:02:19

so it is it's fun is like

1:02:22

playing be tabor it's very cool there's some cool

1:02:24

things like oh you know the roller

1:02:26

coaster thing which is makes me want to puke

1:02:28

and so i turned off but like it's

1:02:30

pretty cool but it's not

1:02:32

like the kind of thing where i've been like can't

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mind is how realistic is it

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the one this little touch is the

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the first time first go okay this okay

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where it'll all be

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gonna be mistakes but the

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eventually this is gonna

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