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into Love is Blind season seven because that

13:14

is right around the corner, literally in a

13:16

week. Dude, Washington,

13:18

D.C. I am

13:20

actually really excited about Washington, D.C.

13:23

Okay, so I was. I

13:25

was really excited. I thought some politicians would

13:27

be on this gas. I was like some

13:30

CIA agents like I mean, who knows? Some

13:32

undercover cops, something undercover cops. You

13:34

could find undercover cops anywhere. But

13:37

I was really like, maybe we'll see some like,

13:39

I don't know, like secret service agents, like some

13:41

FBI agents, anyone

13:43

who works for the NSA. I was like,

13:45

really? The FBI agents. I was like a

13:47

senator, maybe the president. A

13:50

future president. Joe Biden could have been on

13:52

this season. Oh, boy. Could you imagine? His

13:54

wife would not be happy about that. Exactly.

13:57

No, but the FBI agents that watch us. could

14:00

have been on there. That's what I was thinking. You

14:02

know, the FBI agent that's always looking at me through

14:04

my phone and computer. I was

14:06

like, he could

14:08

be on this season. That would be the plot

14:11

twist of the century. I know. He's like, I

14:13

know Natalie, like very deeply. I'll

14:16

spill your secrets if you say anything on the

14:18

podcast. Yeah, exactly. But I

14:20

was kind of disappointed to see it was

14:23

people with just regular jobs you can find anywhere

14:25

in the US, like real estate agent, you

14:28

know, marketing manager, even though those are really good,

14:30

cool jobs. I was like, I mean, you could

14:32

live in Chicago and be those things. I feel

14:34

like it says a lot about people who like

14:37

might want to be politicians and or senators. I

14:39

don't think they would be doing love is blind.

14:41

That's a bad look for them. If you think

14:43

about it, I don't know. I feel like Freddie

14:46

from Lovers Line UK can now run for president.

14:50

He's part of the parliament or like a

14:52

prime minister role in the UK.

14:54

And I would vote for him. I

14:58

feel like he would actually do solely based on

15:00

looks. No personality

15:02

like he has he has won my

15:04

vote. He's trustworthy. But anyway, so I'm

15:06

like, you know, I don't know,

15:08

like not even a congressman, not even a

15:10

congressional aide. No, honestly, it makes sense to

15:12

me. I don't think any of those professions

15:14

would want to go on the show like

15:16

this. Yeah. I'm being honest. I

15:19

did see that there was a

15:21

pair of sisters on the show.

15:23

Tara Nina. I did see that.

15:25

Yeah. So what a what a

15:27

crazy thing that they casted

15:30

both sisters. Like they just apply together.

15:32

Wait, imagine like imagine if you did

15:34

the show with your sister, I'd be

15:36

like, you too. I'd be like, oh,

15:38

what a date. The same people. What I like. What

15:41

if we like the same person? I would be

15:43

that would be wild. A little piece of my

15:45

soul would literally fly away. And I would have

15:48

to give up my person because I'm like, obviously

15:50

my sister is a better human than me. Have

15:52

you ever seen Hamilton the musical? No,

15:54

remember we were supposed to go to it. I have not

15:56

seen it yet in the musical. They're.

16:00

are these trio sisters called the

16:03

Skylar sisters. Okay. And- You

16:05

better not be giving me any spoilers right now. Really,

16:08

like you won't be spoiled. It's like, so

16:10

it's just history, okay? I'm watching you. It's

16:13

history. Okay, okay. So anyways, Angelica,

16:15

the oldest sister falls

16:17

in love with Alexander Hamilton. Okay. But

16:20

she ends up like letting her

16:22

sister Eliza have him. This is all in the

16:24

news spot. I don't know if it actually happened

16:26

in history or if it's like allegations. Even

16:29

though she like loves Alexander Hamilton,

16:32

she's like, I love my sister more. Oh

16:34

yes. And I was like sick. That's so

16:36

sweet. That's

16:39

what I thought about that moment in

16:41

Hamilton when I saw the two sisters

16:43

that are gonna be on the season. Yeah, I'm excited

16:45

to see if they go anywhere. I

16:47

don't think they do. I didn't see them in

16:50

the trailer that came out a few days ago

16:52

that shows the people who are gonna

16:54

make it past the pods who are

16:56

actually gonna like film and

16:59

be part of the season. The trailer

17:01

looked so good. Like

17:03

so good. It was so good. Okay, I'm

17:06

not gonna lie. I saw

17:08

my girl Taylor on there. When I say my girl,

17:10

I don't know her, but she is. I was like,

17:12

whoa, we have a friend named Taylor. But I know

17:14

that she is Asian or

17:17

half Asian. Oh love. Yeah, and I'm

17:19

like, I'd love that representation. I'm so

17:21

glad you have made it through. I

17:23

know. Because not a lot of us do.

17:26

Honestly, on Love is Blind UK, I was

17:28

really sad to not have Priya move forward.

17:30

I was like, where is she? She didn't

17:32

even have like a millisecond, I feel like

17:34

on the show. So we

17:36

love representation. Actually, that was

17:38

kind of weird. Thinking back to Love is

17:40

Blind UK that they really didn't show a

17:42

lot of the other cast. I mean, they

17:45

did show like Charlotte and obviously Tash, but

17:48

beyond that, I feel like on our

17:50

season, you still saw like a lot

17:52

of snippets of the broader cast and

17:55

you didn't really see it on Love is Blind UK. So

17:57

I'm curious if they're gonna continue. Can

18:00

you that for other seasons? I

18:03

feel like it's always like season dependent,

18:05

meaning like it's always what kind of

18:07

drama happens and does it make sense

18:09

to introduce those new characters or not?

18:12

But yeah, we'll have to see. Yeah, but anyways,

18:15

going back to Taylor, she makes it through,

18:17

I think she's so cute. I

18:19

know people are like, you know, why do you

18:21

care if there's East Asian representation? I

18:24

do care. Why would we not care? I know,

18:26

I was like, I gotta look out for my community, okay? I

18:31

feel like when my

18:33

parents were shown on our season, people

18:36

were like, oh my gosh, parents who aren't

18:38

tiger parents. And I was

18:41

like, most Asian parents aren't like

18:43

tiger moms and dads. Yeah. And

18:47

I love when people who

18:49

look like me are on TV breaking

18:51

those stereotypes. Totally agree with you.

18:53

I think it was the same for me too, because

18:56

everyone's like, oh my gosh, she's Indian.

18:58

Why is she doing a show like

19:00

this? But it's like, I'm just a

19:02

normal person that can be of any

19:04

background. And also I always

19:06

say I'm like an intertwined of two

19:08

cultures, which is so true

19:10

because I'm not just one thing, right?

19:13

Totally. But it's the same

19:15

thing. I think that growing up, we

19:17

never saw people who look like us

19:19

on television and especially

19:21

reality TV. I think that's like such a new space

19:23

to be in. Probably because Asians are like, I'm not

19:25

doing this. Yeah, like I'm not bringing dishonor to my

19:28

family. Exactly. And we were really

19:30

careful not to do that. I mean, well,

19:33

except for episode three, we'll make out session.

19:35

That was really bad. I mean, when Shane

19:37

used to talk about our X, X, X

19:39

life way too much, I literally went to

19:41

die inside. Dude, that was the one

19:43

thing I was so happy Shayk and I agreed

19:46

on that we wouldn't talk about our sex life

19:48

like that. Well, Shane and I did agree

19:50

on it, but then I saw the

19:52

show and I was like, what

19:55

are you talking about? I don't know

19:57

what's worse talking about the sex life or saying I'm

19:59

not attractive. into my fiance though. I

20:01

don't know. After the whole sex

20:04

life thing came out, I like could not go to my parents

20:06

church. I was like, you know what? I was like, I just

20:08

feel like, if you're

20:10

Korean, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

20:13

You know what it's like? It's so taboo

20:15

to talk about that stuff in like the

20:17

immigrant community, Korean community. And

20:20

so I was like, I just, I gotta stay hidden.

20:22

See, but that's why it's so important that you did

20:24

it because you do not have to be shamed. No,

20:26

I didn't do it. Shane did it. Well, yes, but

20:28

you were attached. So

20:31

byproduct. You were. You're

20:35

like, oh, so you picked him? They're

20:39

like, may I? No. But

20:41

I'm very curious to see, you know, what

20:44

kind of edit Taylor gets. I'm also okay

20:46

when like Asians are villains because I think

20:48

it shows that we're like multifaceted people. Like

20:50

you're not just going to get like this

20:53

quiet submissive Asian woman. Okay. If

20:55

anyone knows Natalie, she is anything but

20:57

quiet. In

21:00

the nicest way, obviously, you know,

21:02

you have personality duty

21:05

goes in the nicest way. No, it is.

21:07

Five seconds later. Oh,

21:09

really? I'm

21:11

glad you're not shy and quiet because you know,

21:14

you wouldn't be Natalie. Thank

21:16

you. I feel like we wouldn't have a podcast. I would

21:18

say two peeps. I'd be like, hello. You're like,

21:20

hi. Hi, everyone. Hi

21:23

Natalie. I'm glad our heads were in

21:25

the same space. But

21:28

anyways, I'm very excited for this new season. I

21:32

can't believe it's already going to be here

21:34

next week. I know. Crazy. Crazy.

21:37

I cannot wait. Who's going to be the next,

21:39

I don't know, like a villain, social media star.

21:42

I mean, those are the things that I like really

21:44

try to look for is like not what's

21:47

happening during the show, but ended

21:49

the show. Yeah. Like, I'm not

21:51

going to be here. I'm going to be here to

21:53

show you. Yeah. Like, who is the person that got

21:55

the worst edit ever? Who is the

21:57

person that is like the star of the season? just

22:00

going to like take this entire experience

22:02

and just run with it. Yeah. I'm

22:04

an influencer. And who's

22:06

deserving of it all. Yeah. Or

22:09

undeserving. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Even

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23:24

for our favorite segment. It's burning

23:27

question series time. I love

23:29

this segment one because it kind of gets us

23:32

a little bit more connected to our audience, I

23:34

feel like, and our listeners, cause it's all the

23:36

questions that you guys have asked us and are

23:38

wanting to know. So our

23:40

first question, do you reach out to contestants

23:42

or do they reach out to you? I

23:45

feel like this question is probably asking like about

23:48

coming on the podcast. I

23:51

feel like most of our guests have reached

23:53

out to us to come on. I feel

23:55

like for love is my new case, specifically

23:57

Sabrina. Um, we

23:59

asked her. But like we were chatting it

24:01

up. Um, but a

24:03

one thing I will say and pop besties,

24:05

you already, you guys already know this, but

24:08

I would say most, if not all of

24:11

the cast for each love is wine season. Listen

24:14

to our podcast and we'll DM us like being like,

24:16

you need to clarify this or like, this isn't how

24:18

it actually happens. Like here's what happens. Like things like

24:20

that. Um, so in that

24:22

way, that's how the conversation starts of like, do

24:24

you want to come on? Or,

24:28

you know, they'll want to. Yeah. Or

24:30

sometimes when we just love somebody so much, we're

24:32

like, Oh my God, I love you. And

24:34

then it just kind of escalates. Yeah. But even

24:37

our favorites, like sometimes we know it's not going

24:39

to make a good interview or they're kind of

24:41

like, they're like, I don't want to

24:43

say so much because I already got a really good

24:45

edit on the show and I don't want to say

24:47

something out of churn that will like cause confusion. So

24:49

we do get that too. Okay. Next

24:52

question. Most entertaining first date,

24:54

early dating questions in the

24:56

pods. I'm

25:00

trying to think of whomst. Um,

25:03

I would say my most awkward was shake.

25:05

No, I'm just kidding. I

25:07

mean, I believe it actually was. Um, I actually did not like

25:10

him at all. No, I

25:12

would say this wasn't like a first date, but

25:14

it was early on in the pods. But

25:17

I remember all the girls were talking

25:19

about how Sal sang to them and

25:21

serenaded them. Shut up. And I

25:23

was pissed. I'm

25:25

just kidding. I wasn't pissed. I was like very

25:27

upset because Sal was up there for me. I

25:30

was like, Sal, why didn't you serenade to me? And

25:32

I was like very disappointed. Wait,

25:36

is that weird? I was, I was like, how dare you

25:38

not serenade to me? And you know what he said to

25:40

me? What? Cause like our

25:42

conversations flow so well. I didn't need to

25:45

serenade you because it wasn't awkward. That's

25:48

like being like, it's not you. It's me. Wait,

25:50

can I tell you a really funny story? Yeah.

25:53

I feel like I shouldn't tell this story. So

25:56

before we were going to film our reunion and you know

25:58

how we were able to watch the that's in

26:00

advance, like in the hotel room. So

26:04

I was in the same hotel as Mallory, and she

26:07

texted me, she's like, can I watch the

26:09

episode with you, because this has been really hard

26:11

for me. Yes, I really do. So we

26:15

watched the last two episodes, and

26:18

we see the scene where Sal is serenading

26:20

Mallory, where he sings that song, you're like,

26:23

hot like Beyonce. I know exactly

26:25

what you're talking about. It's

26:27

ukulele, and Mall is crying,

26:30

because she's so touched watching that scene,

26:32

and I am scream laughing.

26:34

I was like, Mall, you can't be serious. I was

26:36

like, this literally gives me the ick. I

26:39

was like, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. I

26:41

was like, how did you keep a straight face in this scene? I

26:43

would have literally been like, throw that

26:45

ukulele, throw that ukulele away.

26:47

It's in the moment, in the moment, it's

26:49

very special, but watching it back, I'm like, whoa.

26:51

No, even when she was watching it, she

26:53

thought it was so special, but I was like,

26:56

Mall, how did you not burst out laughing

26:59

or just die inside? Well,

27:01

you know what? When you like somebody,

27:03

that aura is just very strong around you.

27:05

That's when I was like, wow, Mall,

27:07

you really, really did like Sal. I

27:09

was like, this story makes me

27:11

even more upset that he didn't sing to me. How

27:14

dare you? I couldn't, and I don't mean to be mean,

27:16

but you know when you're just like, I don't know, I've

27:19

been serenaded before, and it makes me feel so awkward,

27:21

and when I say I've been serenaded before, not by

27:23

a lover, but by this brand who sent me singers

27:25

to my apartment. And

27:27

I didn't know, do I make eye contact

27:29

with them? And I kept just laughing. I

27:31

was like, ha ha. Honestly, that was so

27:34

awkward when that happened. I remember I just

27:36

videoed them the whole time to avoid the

27:38

awkwardness. I was like, okay, you're in the

27:40

lobby with lots of people

27:42

watching. I was about to say millions of people. It

27:46

was a Taylor Swift concert. But

27:49

no, I just couldn't. I

27:52

wouldn't know what to do with my face, but different

27:54

now. That's

27:56

actually so funny. Okay, Natalie,

27:58

have you been dating? I have. I've

28:00

been put on a lot of blind dates

28:03

by friends. I

28:05

don't know why. Well, probably because I'm like one of the

28:07

few single ones left. And yeah, it's

28:09

been really fun. There's been some bad ones. I

28:13

think my standards are now so high as they should be, not

28:16

like about how someone looks physically, but just now, you

28:18

know, like

28:21

how they act. They're just, um, they're characteristics. Their

28:27

personality, just everything. It's just like, I'm being so

28:29

particular now because I'm so jaded and I just

28:31

don't want to go through

28:34

what I went through with my previous exes. Yeah.

28:36

Next question. Um,

28:39

have any LIB men slid into your DMS like romantically?

28:44

No, I don't think so. Have they for you? This

28:48

would actually surprise people, but I did have someone

28:50

from another season. Um, and I think it's a

28:52

good question. Um,

28:56

another man who slid into my DMS asking

28:58

me to lunch in LA. Oh, I know

29:00

who you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

29:03

And he made jokes that

29:06

it was a date, but like I couldn't gauge it. I

29:08

was all like, is this platonic or a date? But

29:10

he kept saying like, oh, like it, like when

29:13

we made the plans, he's like, okay, it's a date.

29:15

And I was, and then we got there and I

29:17

was like, do I act like, like

29:19

flirty or friendly? And it really just didn't end up

29:21

going anywhere. It's hard when someone's like, it's a date. And

29:24

I'm like, do you mean that as it's an actual

29:26

date or, you know, like the saying

29:28

when they're like, it's a date. Yeah. But, um, yeah,

29:32

I was kind of surprised at that one. It was,

29:35

it's really someone no one would expect.

29:39

I wish I didn't know, but I know. Yeah. But you know, actually

29:42

this next one's for you deep deep. Would

29:44

you consider dating apps again? They can work

29:46

eventually. I

29:49

was actually talking to a few of my

29:51

friends and they have had so much success

29:54

on dating apps. Yeah. Same with my

29:56

friends. And they found their person and.

30:00

I don't know, I'm really considering going back into it,

30:03

but it's just hard, because I'm like, I just know

30:05

myself and on dating apps, I don't take them seriously.

30:07

Like I use them for an ego boost and then

30:09

I'm kind of like over it, because

30:11

men on there, I feel like are just so

30:13

like. I feel like some men

30:16

are using it for the same way. So

30:18

sometimes it's really hard. Yeah, exactly. To like

30:20

find really serious suitors on that app. Exactly.

30:22

Well, can I tell you something hilarious that

30:24

happened to me? What? So

30:27

I go back to my

30:29

parents house a lot. They live in the suburbs of

30:31

Chicago and I walk my dog a

30:33

lot and I'm not gonna lie to you. I literally

30:35

look like a homeless person when I'm walking the dog.

30:38

I believe it. No, I literally, because I've seen

30:40

you at your worst and you've seen me at

30:42

my worst. It's horrifying. And guys

30:44

tell me, it's a transformation. Like

30:47

we, you think we

30:49

look okay now. You should see

30:51

us when we are just chilling

30:54

or just skip forward to our ad

30:56

recording. Those show us in a different

30:58

light. But

31:02

one of my mom's like neighbors

31:05

apparently reached out to her and was like, hey, I

31:07

wanna set you up on a date with this doctor.

31:11

Yes. And I was like, hmm. I'm

31:13

like, is this kind of like an arranged marriage?

31:15

Oh, I love it. I love it. Can

31:18

you imagine being married to a doctor and you're like, ow,

31:20

my arm hurts. And you just track it right there and

31:22

then. Or he's like, you know,

31:24

a different type of doctor that can't really do

31:27

that. Oh yeah, that's true.

31:29

But who knows? But he'll have a friend that he could

31:31

text. Yeah, that's true. But

31:33

I was like, you know what? I should

31:35

take her up on this because that would

31:38

be nice. And honestly, that energy

31:40

is coming because of you

31:42

too, I think, because you've been on a

31:44

lot of like setups. And I

31:46

feel like I'm like, why am I fighting it? Maybe

31:48

my mom is the way to finding my person. Exactly.

31:52

She knows me best, you know? Yeah. Okay,

31:55

this was a fun one. If you

31:57

could date anyone from the LIB seasons. Who

32:00

would it be and why? Wow,

32:06

that's this is really hard. This is a loaded

32:08

question. Yeah, I'm glad I'm asking you wait Who

32:11

would you date? Oh, I asked you though. Okay. This

32:13

question is for the both of us. Okay? This

32:19

is a hard one Shane

32:30

Immediate ick I got it. I know I was

32:32

like, okay. I would've been like have fun Across

32:36

all seasons Wow. Does this include

32:38

the UK season? Yeah Hmm,

32:42

I'm just kidding. No, um, I don't know

32:44

I would do Freddie I would

32:46

say Freddie Yeah, and that's why I asked about the

32:48

UK. He just seems like such a good guy I

32:50

at one time had a dream that I

32:52

was dating Freddie Freddie

32:54

will make a clip out of this and

32:56

if he likes it on or

32:58

out of the box Instagram page no,

33:01

I know, you know, I've done long distance

33:03

I was worried but I can't do a

33:05

different time not across that not across the

33:07

pond I feel like I can't do like

33:09

across multiple oceans like it's only one ocean

33:14

But here's the thing it's switched me to

33:16

Freddie and Tom it was like oh

33:18

and trust me I I don't It's

33:21

like I was in love is fine. Okay,

33:23

like it's like a throttle type of situation

33:26

like it started with Freddie and it was

33:28

Freddie's face and then It's

33:31

it's like I was still with the

33:33

same person. I was still dating a person, but it was

33:35

Tom You're like woke up next to him. You're like, oh,

33:37

it's Tom And I was like, what

33:39

the heck I woke up and I was like, I need to stop watching this

33:42

show I

33:44

need to stop researching about what's happening. You know,

33:46

it's like I can't recap this. I

33:48

can't recap the show anymore I

33:51

know I never told you about it because it was like so

33:53

stupid. It was just like a dumb dream But yeah, I would

33:55

have been like hmm. Can't wait to spill

33:58

that on I

34:00

remember waking up and being like, oh, I was like, I'm

34:02

so over the show. Well,

34:05

get ready because there's another season

34:08

coming. Oh my gosh. Um, but

34:10

yeah, I'd say Freddie. Yeah.

34:12

Okay. Okay. This is a good

34:15

one from one of our pot besties. What do you

34:17

two fight about? Any big disagreements or blowouts and how

34:19

do you resolve it? We

34:23

never fight or have blowouts. No, never.

34:25

But we do have disagreements. Yeah. Which

34:27

is I think normal and healthy. Yeah.

34:29

Never about things personally, but when it comes

34:32

to the direction we want to go with

34:34

their podcasts, like we'll be like, you know,

34:36

we should mention this. And one of us

34:38

might be like, no, we shouldn't. Or, you

34:40

know, like we put,

34:44

we should put this social media clip out

34:46

there. And it's typically deep to saying like,

34:48

no, are you kidding? Like it's going to

34:50

cause a controversy. But I think that's why

34:52

I love us so much because I think

34:54

it's very healthy that we have those disagreements

34:56

because we're two very different people. Yes. And

34:58

Natalie's more a type type. I'm

35:01

more type a, and I'm very much

35:03

more like chill, relax type, but

35:05

I think healthy communication really

35:07

gets us through a lot of things. Yeah.

35:10

Like we're very honest with you with each

35:12

other, even when it's difficult. And I think

35:14

that's like very positive for us. Yeah. So

35:16

I would say it's like less of disagreements,

35:18

but I'll disagree with the path forward, but

35:20

we'll always compromise or just be like, yeah,

35:23

let's do it. Like if it's not important

35:25

enough. So, um, but yeah,

35:27

how we resolve it is, I don't know. I

35:29

feel like communication is like key for

35:31

any relationship. I feel like in friendships,

35:34

like I feel like when it comes

35:36

to, it's hard when your business

35:38

partners as well as friends, you know,

35:40

sometimes it's like a hard balance, but

35:43

I think communication is really

35:45

the biggest thing, the key. And

35:48

I'd say like we never take things personally.

35:50

So if deep D, if I ever put

35:52

an idea out there and deep D disagrees

35:54

with me, I never take it personally because

35:56

I know deep D wants the best for

35:58

this podcast. So she's disagreeing. with

36:00

me or pushing back because we want the

36:02

same thing. Like what's the best? So like,

36:04

I never take it personally. And

36:06

I'm like, okay, I see your point.

36:09

And like, we'll either try to compromise or just like

36:11

not do it. Yeah. I feel

36:13

like in vice versa, truly. You said it perfectly.

36:15

And then I think as best friends, we never

36:18

fight or disagree personally. The biggest fight we've

36:20

ever had, I think is when you hated

36:22

Kyle. Oh yes. And that wasn't even

36:24

a fight. That was just like, okay, that's good. Doo doo

36:26

is like, well, I won't be talking to Kyle. I

36:29

won't be talking about Kyle to you, but yeah,

36:32

like personally, we never fight. I think that we're

36:36

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37:33

question, when do they film confessionals? Is

37:35

it during filming? Yes,

37:37

it is during filming. Wow,

37:40

the worst parts of filming. Because

37:42

they block off like certain periods of time

37:44

for you to go and sit down

37:47

in the exact same outfit every single

37:49

time down to like the

37:51

jewelry you're wearing. Yeah. And

37:54

as you're going through

37:56

filming the entire series, you go

37:58

in and you... you have a blocked

38:01

off time to basically do your confessionals or

38:03

your interviews. Sometimes they'll do off the fly,

38:05

on the fly. On the fly, yeah. And

38:07

that's like, essentially right after a scene, they'll

38:10

pull you and your partner aside and just

38:12

kind of like ask for your thoughts and

38:14

like, you know, backstories, anything

38:16

like that. But

38:18

yeah, that's pretty much. Yeah, so it happens throughout

38:21

filming. I would say it happens like once a

38:23

week, but when you're in the pods, I

38:25

think I got pulled for confessionals every day.

38:27

Yeah, I think I did too, basically. What's

38:29

really tough though, is like you have a

38:31

final confessional after your wedding day. Yes. And

38:34

so they're asking questions of what happened throughout all

38:36

the filming. So it's tough cause

38:38

like your memory is kind of hazy by

38:41

that point and you just went through, well,

38:44

if you don't get married, you just went through like one of the worst

38:46

days of your life. And yeah,

38:50

it's just like a lot. Yeah,

38:52

it's definitely a lot. In my, for

38:54

me, I think it was more like therapy

38:56

for me cause I was like, okay, let

38:58

me like process these emotions. But I remember

39:00

ours was back to back. Yeah. Remember

39:02

our cute pic that we took at the very end.

39:05

That was my final confessional. Yes, mine too. It was

39:07

so cute. Yeah. I was like, okay,

39:09

end of this chapter. Yeah, so when

39:11

I was ending my confessional, Deep D was coming in

39:13

for hers. It was like in the

39:15

studio set they set up in Chicago and

39:18

I had a really tough one. They were asking me questions about

39:20

Deep D, just being like, why are you so jealous of Deep

39:23

D? Like, do you think Shane has a crush on Deep D?

39:25

Yeah, I was like, what? I remember we were talking about that

39:28

too. We were like, let me know if they ask you weird

39:30

questions like that. And I was like, what is happening? No,

39:33

I'm not. I was like, Deep D is one of my

39:35

friends. Why would I be jealous of her? First of all,

39:37

we never even overlapped any storylines. That was weird. I think

39:39

what they were doing is trying to gather content in case

39:41

they want to give me a villain edit. And I think

39:44

they knew you were gonna get a very

39:46

strong edit just based on what had happened

39:48

during filming to you. So it was

39:50

like, just in case we want to pit Natalie against Deep

39:53

D, like here's how we would do it. They

39:55

were exploring all avenues and making sure

39:57

they had footage for every scenario. Yes,

39:59

exactly. Okay. Next question. Did you guys

40:02

ever end up freezing your eggs? Are

40:04

you guys still considering it? Oh,

40:07

this is a fun one. Yeah. Yeah.

40:09

We both actually are moving forward with

40:11

doing our egg freezing, which is so

40:13

exciting. I cannot wait, but we did

40:16

our blood tests and, you know, just

40:18

kind of waiting on next steps. So

40:20

we did our ultrasound too. Um, starting

40:23

the actual process for me though, um, mine

40:26

is going to be a little bit delayed

40:28

and I'll talk about it in another episode

40:32

when there's a little bit more time. Um, because I

40:34

think a lot of women will be able to relate

40:36

to it, but yeah, um, we,

40:39

um, are doing it, but we're just going to

40:41

be on different timelines. Yeah, exactly.

40:45

But is a, it's a good step. And I

40:47

think, like you said, we'll talk about it in

40:49

a later episode with why it was important to

40:51

us to, to do it. Yeah. Okay.

40:54

Next question. If a couple isn't chosen

40:56

to be followed, they don't get

40:58

to go on the trip. Why don't

41:00

they get picked and filmed? I

41:04

think by the trip, they mean the,

41:06

like the post pods honeymoon. Yes. Um,

41:10

I don't know. I feel like it's less

41:13

of a budget issue, but more of a screen

41:15

time issue. Like, you know, for

41:17

example, on love is blind UK, there's

41:19

11 couples that got engaged. There

41:22

are not enough episodes for

41:25

11 couples to be followed. And I'm pretty sure

41:27

that there is a cap on how many episodes

41:29

they could produce anyways. So

41:31

it just doesn't make sense. Like I would hate

41:33

to watch love is blind with

41:36

11 couples that get like a

41:38

small amount of screen time. I feel like you

41:40

can't tell real storylines with that many couples. No.

41:43

And you can't get attached to the characters or

41:45

the people on the show either. I feel like

41:47

that's why the first couple episodes of every new

41:49

season, I'm like, okay, like you

41:51

don't really, you know, them that well. So

41:53

you're not like very invested, but then towards

41:56

the end, you're like, Oh my gosh, I

41:58

love this person and their character. Yeah. I

42:00

mean, I think about it how it was

42:02

so hard for us to remember the

42:04

names of all the six couples in Love is

42:07

Mine UK and also from like the previous Love

42:09

is Mine US seasons. I'd be like, OK, what's

42:12

their name again? Who are they engaged to?

42:15

What's their partner's name? So

42:17

I totally understand that they don't follow everyone. I

42:20

also feel like when

42:22

it comes to choosing couples, OK, this

42:25

might be a controversial take. But I

42:27

think for our season, it came down

42:29

to diversity. Yeah. Storylines

42:32

plus diversity, for sure. Because there

42:34

was drama in the other couples

42:36

that didn't get followed. There was

42:38

love triangles and a lot

42:40

of conflict there. But you're right. I think

42:42

for us, it came down to just

42:46

uniqueness and diversity. Yeah. Like, do

42:48

I think that Shane

42:50

and I were potentially chosen? Well,

42:53

probably because the Shaina storyline was happening that

42:56

I didn't know about. But

42:59

also because I was East Asian, I think

43:02

so. If I

43:04

chose Kyle, would I be chosen? Yes.

43:07

I don't know. I think so. I feel

43:09

like they looked at Kyle and they're like, you're coming through. So

43:14

I don't know. So I think things like that. But I also

43:16

think that they

43:19

try to find couples they feel like are

43:21

really, really going to make it get married,

43:23

but also couples that are going to be

43:25

really messy and make really good TV. Exactly.

43:27

They need the balance of both. They need

43:29

drama to make a good TV show, as

43:31

well as actual love

43:34

stories. And sometimes I

43:36

do think producers see

43:39

through fake people. Oh,

43:41

100%. And they're like, you're kind

43:44

of putting on a show for us. And

43:46

I either cut them or they're like, OK,

43:48

we'll take you. But you're not getting a

43:50

good edit. Yeah. Yeah.

43:52

No, I think that too. I think

43:54

that sometimes couples aren't shown because someone's

43:56

not being authentic. And the

43:58

authenticity is just like. It's so

44:01

obvious on the camera that they're like, it's

44:03

not so what's so I mean, we had

44:05

someone on our season I hate

44:08

saying that's exactly what I thought of that too. Just

44:10

watching that on screen like, you know, you're just kind

44:12

of like Just saying whatever

44:14

and you're not you're just kind of making

44:16

up stuff. Yeah, so it was just so

44:19

obvious in person I was like, I'm sure

44:21

on camera. It's just so obvious to Alright

44:24

next question. How do you deal with a toxic

44:26

person in the friend group? Ooh This

44:29

is a good one because I feel like I've gone

44:31

through this before I think I've

44:33

mentioned this on the podcast But for our

44:35

new pod besties, I used to have a

44:37

best friend who was very toxic especially

44:40

to me actually and like kind of would

44:42

use me as her Scapegoat

44:44

to kind of like make herself feel better

44:47

about life if that makes sense And I

44:49

think honestly the easiest thing you can do

44:51

is recognize first of all that they are

44:53

being toxic and not you're not gaslighting yourself

44:56

into thinking that you're the problem and

44:59

Secondly to set very clear boundaries with

45:01

the rest of the friend group saying

45:03

like hey, you know what? I

45:06

do not want to be in the presence of this

45:08

person. So I'm gonna distance myself in these situations

45:10

and in group hangs like

45:13

unfortunately you're gonna have to make the decision

45:15

like Am I gonna be okay

45:17

hanging out with this person and not allow their

45:19

toxicity to kind of like seep through into you

45:21

if you Are able to

45:23

then go ahead and hang out with them But

45:25

if not, I think you have to distance yourself and

45:27

that sucks because distance can get very lonely But

45:30

it makes way for new friends. Yeah, I

45:33

know I

45:35

would rather have no friends than a toxic

45:37

friend agreed. Yeah, and honestly fuck distancing just

45:39

cut them off Yeah, they don't need an

45:41

explanation if they're being toxic and don't make

45:43

you feel good about yourself because you're supposed

45:46

to surround yourself with people Who

45:48

make you feel good about yourself who support

45:50

you and want the best for you? And

45:52

if someone's bringing toxicity cut them off no

45:54

explanation needed. Yeah. Yeah agreed But

45:57

I'm a harsh bitch. So that's just my thing

46:00

Yeah, I think it's hard. It

46:02

depends on the closeness that you have with

46:04

that friend, if that makes sense.

46:07

Sometimes it's very difficult to just cut

46:09

them off completely. But in a lot

46:11

of situations, that's honestly the move. And

46:15

my mom always says,

46:18

if you want to see your future, look at your friends. That's

46:22

true. And I feel like my friends have really great futures.

46:24

So I'm glad. I like that saying.

46:27

What was your guys' relationship like in the pods?

46:30

The two of us. So we were

46:33

friends, but we weren't particularly close. But

46:35

we actually sat in the same seat

46:38

row on our way to filming. Yes.

46:40

OK, I remember that so clearly because

46:42

we both weren't letting on to why

46:45

we were there. And I remember Natalie

46:47

sitting one person over me in the

46:49

same row. And she was taking notes. And I was

46:51

writing in a journal. I was like, is this a

46:53

college student? What is she doing? And then

46:55

I saw you in the bathroom. And I was like, hey.

46:57

And you're like, why are you here in LA? And

47:00

I was like, visiting friends. And

47:02

then we were both in the same van because

47:04

we had the same producer. And

47:06

I remember we had such a great heart

47:09

to heart because we were both Asian. And

47:11

we're like, wow, there's so much pressure on

47:13

us to represent our community as well. I

47:16

remember all of that. I do remember that

47:18

too. Yeah. But yeah, we were friends. But

47:20

to be fair, I was not close to

47:22

really anyone from the pods, I feel like.

47:24

I kind of stayed in my own little

47:26

bubble. But obviously, we got along

47:28

really well. Yeah, we got along really well. Same.

47:31

I would say all the women, even though

47:33

we had such a good time together, I

47:35

don't think anyone was particularly close. I

47:38

didn't even get close to Ayanna until

47:41

the second to last week of filming. Yeah. So

47:44

we were not close in the pods. She

47:46

actually disliked me. And then

47:49

we would constantly see

47:51

each other in filming

47:53

locations. And so I remember one time she texted

47:55

me. She's like, hey, do you just want to

47:57

meet up? I just want to like.

47:59

just like vent and like talk to you and

48:01

that's how we got close but so it was

48:03

natural that no one was really close but yeah

48:05

you were you were the first

48:07

person I saw and then I think we

48:10

got close really a year after the show

48:12

came out yeah but I do remember even

48:14

during filming you were looking out for me

48:16

because Shane and shake were so close and

48:19

like you would hear things from Shane and you're like

48:22

would pull me aside and be like hey like I

48:24

need to talk to you yeah I remember you're looking

48:26

out for me from the beginning yeah

48:28

I remember and you see it on the

48:30

show too where like shake says like weird

48:32

stuff to Shane about you know his relationship

48:34

with you and yeah

48:36

I remember being like what the fuck yeah

48:38

you're like deep saying talk to you because

48:40

you're so loyal to shake as you should

48:43

be as his fiance at the time but

48:45

it was tough because I think you

48:48

know hopefully he's changed by the time I

48:50

think shake was just a very very immature

48:52

and just kind of an asshole during filming

48:54

yeah next question how do

48:56

I go about being alone so I have very

48:58

few friends no partner and I'm not dating well

49:02

you have us always that is

49:05

a that's a hard one because

49:07

I think in recent

49:09

years I've realized that

49:12

there's a difference between being alone and

49:14

being lonely if that makes sense I

49:17

think it's okay to be alone and to

49:19

kind of get new hobbies and you

49:22

know seek out new interests if that makes

49:24

sense whereas being lonely I

49:26

think it's like a feeling like I'm not

49:28

sure which one it is but I've always

49:30

like in my 20s how to partner and

49:33

it's only now in the last two

49:35

years that I've like not how to

49:38

partner and sometimes it does get lonely

49:40

but I think I've learned to enjoy

49:42

my alone time place value in knowing

49:44

that oh what if I meet

49:47

the love of my life in a week and

49:49

this is the only time that I have to

49:52

be alone and to like figure out who I am

49:54

or do the things that I love before I have

49:56

to take someone else into consideration you know what I

49:58

mean so I don't know it's It's

50:01

hard, but I would say lean on those

50:03

interests and yeah, you know, pick out some

50:05

new hobbies or go places where you can

50:07

connect with people if you're looking for new

50:09

friends. And if we're

50:11

a pod bestie who asks this question is

50:14

feeling lonely. I

50:16

mean, that's, I feel like a very

50:19

normal feeling. I feel lonely sometimes too,

50:21

especially being, you

50:24

know, in the same boat, I don't have a partner.

50:26

I am dating, but I, you know, it's like very

50:28

early stages. Um, but

50:30

just, yeah, like you just said,

50:32

like find hobbies, find hobbies you like to do, find

50:34

hobbies you don't even think you'll like to do just

50:37

like go out there and like do stuff. Yeah.

50:41

Like, uh, you know, I think that

50:43

slowly you'll meet more people through those

50:45

hobbies hopefully, but you will also learn

50:47

like what you like, dislike. And, um,

50:50

I don't know. And you just learn to love yourself

50:52

and love being alone with

50:54

yourself. Exactly. Take up a,

50:57

take a pottery like me. No,

51:00

guys, I'll, I'll do like really crazy things.

51:02

Like there's, um, did I tell you

51:04

about this? No, I don't know. Tell me there's

51:06

like a drawing contest at the Chicago public library.

51:08

Nice. I'd hope for it. Wait, I love that.

51:11

Are you into it's like free? No, I'm not.

51:13

But I was like, you know what? I was

51:15

like, I feel like I have nothing

51:17

to do. Uh, well, this was a few weekends ago,

51:19

but I was like, I have nothing to do this

51:21

weekend. I was like, I'm just going to do it.

51:23

Like why not? Also, I heard that tennis is the

51:25

healthiest sport that exists and it'll

51:28

keep you healthy for like in

51:30

the long run. And so I was like, I need

51:32

to, I mean, I've always played tennis, but I was

51:34

like, people need to get into tennis. I

51:36

know. This is the best sport ever. I

51:39

don't know if I'm wrong in saying this,

51:41

but isn't tennis an expensive sport? It is

51:43

expensive because I used to do, um, like

51:45

private racquet club and it

51:47

was definitely there's, it's not

51:49

cheap. So thank you parents for allowing me

51:51

to do that. Well, if you can't do

51:53

tennis, cause you can't afford it, you know,

51:55

go to your local public library and sign

51:57

up for a drawing competition. tennis

52:00

courts. You don't have to

52:02

join a club, but I do have to say

52:04

some of my childhood best best friends who I'm

52:06

still friends with to this day are from tennis

52:09

and they're not from my high school. Oh, I

52:11

love that. I would say

52:13

take up tennis. Um,

52:15

next question. Did you guys ever film something

52:18

that was super embarrassing that was never shown?

52:20

Yes. Oh my gosh.

52:22

What? I think about this all the time

52:24

because it haunts me and I

52:26

was like, thank God that footage will never be

52:28

released. But if you remember when we were in

52:30

Mexico, remember

52:33

when we played beach volleyball? Oh, that was the worst

52:35

day of my life. Worst day of my entire life.

52:37

Because first of all, we had been drinking all day

52:39

and we didn't know that we

52:41

were going to be filmed that evening. I

52:43

had food poisoning during that. Oh, I forgot.

52:45

Or I had a parasite. Like I think

52:47

I had a parasite. I do remember you

52:49

being sick. Yeah. But I bloated because I

52:52

was shitting my brains out every hour. Do

52:55

you remember that? I do. I

52:57

remember we were in shambles, but

52:59

I specifically remember I was so messed up.

53:02

Like, because we had been taking tequila shots

53:04

on tequila shots and shake and I had

53:06

the best time to be

53:08

honest, but we were lit. And I

53:10

remember they're like, you need to play beach volleyball. And

53:12

I sucked at it. I

53:15

was falling everywhere. And then they made me

53:17

have that heart to heart with Nick. I

53:19

was like, huh? Oh, it did. But like

53:22

only piece of it. And I was like, so

53:24

scared watching it. I was like, please dear God.

53:26

No, no, no, no, no. Don't air more of

53:28

it. No wonder I was being so honest. Is

53:32

there a moment for you that you can think of? There

53:35

are some scenes that were kind of like scandalous

53:37

that they, when I say they made us film

53:40

shower scene. Yeah. There was like a shower scene.

53:43

And then I remember midway, I was like, I'm

53:45

not doing this. Like, sorry. Good for you. Yeah.

53:47

I was like the queen of saying no. When

53:50

I realized, when I realized you could say

53:52

no to stuff. Um, yeah,

53:55

but that I'm glad

53:57

wasn't shown. There

53:59

was. something that happened on my

54:02

wedding day that involved

54:04

shame that I'm glad wasn't shown and

54:06

I'm not surprised it wasn't shown because

54:08

it would have been really bad yeah

54:10

but yeah I mean I'd

54:14

say those are the top two yeah that

54:16

just gave me PTSD thinking about it that

54:18

scene with the Mexico scene I was

54:21

like oh god okay

54:24

last question if you guys could

54:26

do any season of Love is

54:28

Blind which one would you go

54:30

on and why and let's keep it

54:33

US oh my

54:35

gosh keep it US literally none of

54:37

them wow

54:40

I would do let me

54:42

think about the men on each of

54:44

these seasons okay

54:48

actually I would do Love is Blind season one because

54:50

I feel like it was before they knew it was gonna

54:52

be a really popular show and I feel

54:55

like I've talked to some of the men

54:57

from that season of the broader cast like

54:59

before our season came out like

55:02

some of them reached out being like oh we heard you're part of

55:04

like season two like good luck I

55:07

just felt like everyone I spoke to from

55:09

that season one broader cast male

55:11

wise was so nice and

55:14

mature yeah and they had no idea what

55:16

was coming yeah yeah yeah like

55:18

a good one I feel like when I

55:20

think about the seasons after I think

55:23

that I would be a little bit nervous being

55:25

like are you here like if if I choose

55:27

you and like say yes to your proposal or

55:29

you say yes to my proposal are

55:32

gonna use me for screen time yeah

55:34

like I feel like that's now a new fear

55:36

mmm no it is definitely I think it was

55:38

kind of on our season it was like a

55:40

little bit I guess I didn't realize how much

55:43

until after it aired yeah that makes sense yeah

55:45

I'm going through it I didn't expect it to

55:47

be and I had no idea that

55:49

was even like a it didn't cross my

55:51

mind but I would say I

55:53

would go on season seven because I know nothing about it

55:56

okay easy way out I know I was like

55:58

let's just I have I'm hopeful for this

56:00

season, but let's face it, there's not gonna

56:02

be. I'm gonna

56:04

watch the show as if you're gonna, as if

56:06

you could have been on it. Well,

56:09

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56:11

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56:16

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56:18

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56:20

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