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2:55

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So let's just get into this. Let's

3:48

get inside of Rachel Harris. It's

3:50

my point of view. You're

3:53

listening to inside of

3:55

you with Michael Rosenbaum.

4:04

Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded

4:07

in front of a live studio audience. You're

4:09

feisty. What do you mean? In

4:12

a fun way, you're fun. You're fun. You

4:14

got a little, there's always something behind the

4:16

eyes. There's always, you're always thinking of other

4:18

shit to say. You've

4:20

always been like that, haven't you? It's probably, no, it's

4:22

probably been, well, yeah. Since

4:25

you're a kid, you're a little mischievous. Yeah. Yeah.

4:28

People say mischievous. Yeah.

4:31

Or wouldn't they say anyways? Anyways.

4:34

No, it's anyway. Anyway.

4:37

Yeah. Who says anyways?

4:40

No, I don't know. What

4:42

do other people say? Or escape.

4:45

Escape? Instead

4:48

of escape. Yeah. Or I'm

4:50

taken. I'm taken back by that. I'm

4:54

taken back. Yeah, I'm taken. I'm taken back by

4:56

that. What's another good one? No, you're like, it's

4:58

a back. Yeah, no. And

5:00

they're really serious and they say, I was

5:02

taken back by it. I'm like, well. It

5:06

just, you're like, all right. Well, I mean, what do

5:08

you do? I mean, I'm not the most educated person

5:10

in the world. But also, no, I mean, I am

5:12

really not. I

5:14

was a terrible student. Really? I

5:17

just look smart because my glasses. Have

5:19

you always worn glasses? Not always. It's,

5:21

I started, you know when I started

5:24

wearing glasses, you're going to find this

5:26

fascinating. You won't. But

5:28

I was doing the daily

5:31

show. Yes. And I had

5:34

to read a teleprompter. And

5:37

I was like, I was like squinting. I couldn't

5:39

see it. And. That's

5:41

scary. Yeah. And

5:43

so they were like, we can make it larger. But I

5:45

was like, wow. And then I started

5:47

noticing, this is so sad. The

5:50

guide on the TV, like when I would go through, remember when we

5:52

lived by the guide before stream. Anyway,

5:55

no, no, I still go by the guide.

5:57

I do too. Yeah. Sad. the

6:00

guide, I couldn't see it. And

6:03

I was like, I can't have that. No.

6:05

I need to be able to see the program. Are you a far

6:08

sighted person or a near sighted person? I am

6:10

near sighted. So far away is tough. Yeah. Near,

6:13

you're good. You could take your glasses off right now and read

6:15

what I have here. Probably not. I mean, like

6:17

it's gone downhill. Like I have progressives.

6:19

I am like always looking for answers

6:22

and every

6:25

time you're on Instagram, it's like,

6:27

do this and this will stop your

6:29

headaches. Do this and your nose will

6:31

be smaller. Do this. So

6:34

I swear to God, it's like everything. And there was

6:36

this one guy who's like, do these eye exercise and

6:38

you won't ever need glasses. You'll

6:41

correct your vision. And I started doing it.

6:43

And it was like to the left,

6:45

to the right, triangle, down, box, going.

6:48

And I started doing these things. I go, what the fuck are

6:50

you doing, man? You don't need glasses.

6:52

Don't you think somebody would have mentioned this?

6:55

A long time ago? Optometrist would have

6:57

said, hey, look at

6:59

an X imaginary. Yeah, it

7:01

doesn't work. No. No, so.

7:03

No, and I'm always scared in the

7:06

eye exams that I'm

7:08

trying to like please the doctor. Me

7:11

too. Where I'm like, oh no, no, I can

7:13

see it. I can see it. Can you read the

7:16

third line, Rachel? And then I'm like, oh, not good

7:18

enough. Yeah. Or I'll be like. Instead of just

7:20

being honest. Yeah, but I've learned to be

7:22

honest now. Yeah. Because honestly

7:24

it helps, yeah. Like you'll say

7:26

read the fourth line. I'll go, C-E-F-G-I-A.

7:33

And he goes, yeah, I got it. He goes,

7:35

not close. Not close. I

7:38

go, really? No. That's the thing. Is

7:40

that if you can just be authentic,

7:44

I said a really big word. Are you authentic? Yes.

7:47

Do you think you've always been authentic? Do you think you? No.

7:51

No. No. When I first started

7:54

out acting, I think I grew up

7:56

in Ohio, small

7:58

town, and I had. and there's

8:00

a whole like Tennessee Williams play in there,

8:03

but I'm not gonna go into it. Oh,

8:05

we all have that in small towns. Yeah.

8:07

Yeah, me too, I grew up in a

8:09

small town. Yeah, yeah, Indiana, right? Newburgh, Indiana,

8:11

Southern, yeah, right near Kentucky. Yeah. And

8:14

yeah, the stories that, if I told you, you

8:16

thought it was a quaint little town, crazy

8:19

shit. Same. I could tell,

8:21

like the guy behind me got caught in

8:23

a shredder at work and shredded his whole

8:25

body. Two blocks away, a guy, you know,

8:27

killed people. Why is that funny to me?

8:29

That's terrible. It's so ridiculous. It's so dark,

8:31

yeah. I can write a novel. Yeah, no,

8:33

my parents, I should write something.

8:35

Everybody's, you go to write this and I'm like, it's

8:38

a 10 in 10s. Were you in your Youngstown? No,

8:41

I was near Columbus,

8:44

but I mean, I've been to Youngstown. I've

8:47

been to like Dayton. They're all kind of

8:49

this, you know. Do they have a night's

8:51

in still? Yes. They have the nights in?

8:53

Yeah. We're staying

8:55

at the nights in. Little did I know, I mean,

8:57

it was the cheapest fucking hotel. Not

9:00

hotel, motel you got. And like the Red Roof

9:02

Inn. Oh yeah, and I used to keep all

9:04

the soaps. Yes. I

9:06

was like Gilbert Godfrey. He always did that. He kept his little

9:08

shampoo. I know, do you still do that? No. Yeah,

9:11

thanksy. That emphatic no, makes

9:15

me so happy. Yeah, because that's really, I

9:17

mean, I do have OCD, but it's not

9:19

that extreme. Well, and it's, yeah, but it's

9:21

also a hoarding thing. You know what I

9:23

mean? Like a lack thing. Like if people

9:26

take all the soaps in, it's

9:28

like we can afford soap. Yeah. We

9:31

can afford. Yeah, we can do actually a full bar that will

9:33

last more than an hour. Or hey, call

9:36

me crazy like a gel. Yeah. Like

9:39

a gel that comes out of a pump. You don't need

9:41

the hair cover. Mm-mm. You don't.

9:43

You don't need to take those. You don't need, what do

9:45

you need them for? You don't, you really. You don't need

9:47

to file your nails. You don't need to honor those. No,

9:49

no. No. You

9:51

know, it's like we can afford to get this. Yeah.

9:54

So yeah, it's an abundance thing. Were you popular growing

9:56

up? I. You

9:59

were. Was. No, I was a

10:01

theater nerd in school. I was

10:03

a cheerleader. I was more popular, I think,

10:05

in middle school. You

10:08

look like a cheerleader. You look like you'd

10:10

be a cheerleader. Like you were

10:12

a cheerleader. Well, my hair now, especially since

10:14

it's short and like. You

10:16

look like a Paige Porter. We

10:19

had a girl at our high school named Paige Porter,

10:21

cute, blonde, short hair. She was adorable,

10:23

Paige Porter. Yeah, no. Out of my

10:25

league. Well, no. I

10:28

mean, I was, okay, so let me just

10:31

say it this way. I was in middle school. I

10:33

was the first year that I auditioned that I tried

10:35

out. Actually, it's not an audition, but I tried out

10:37

to be a cheerleader. I didn't get it

10:40

and I was devastated, but I also had like, I

10:42

didn't have the outfit down what

10:45

all the girls, what all the

10:47

wealthy girls wore, like to try out for cheerleading.

10:50

And they also knew what they were doing. So the second year I

10:52

was ready and I had

10:54

those white sneakers, white socks, blue

10:57

shorts, light blue Oxford.

10:59

I mean, I was ready and

11:02

that was like the beginning of like, I'm gonna be

11:04

so good, you can't ignore me. And the

11:07

guys liked the cheerleaders. Like you went out with a

11:09

lot. They did, but no, but no, no, no.

11:11

I was so super. Straight

11:14

laced. Yes, very straight laced. Cause my

11:16

mom was, I love

11:19

my mom. She's still with us. She

11:22

is not. Oh, she is. But

11:24

she was a big rager and. Rager,

11:27

your mother partied. No,

11:29

like screamer. Like, hey.

11:31

Oh, red controller. You know,

11:33

cause we raged. Did you think rage too?

11:35

Yeah, you were like, she, yeah, she partied. No,

11:39

but no, she did not party. Well,

11:41

they did party and that's part

11:43

of the problem. Right. But. Bad

11:45

temper. Yeah, really bad,

11:47

scary. So I was like,

11:51

I toed the line. Like I was a good girl.

11:54

I was. Yeah. When

11:56

we were little, she did more than spank me when

11:59

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You went to a lot of therapy, didn't you? I did, I went

20:01

to a lot of therapy and also because my, because

20:03

my stepdad who was the greatest thing that ever happened

20:05

to me in my life. He raised you. Yeah. My

20:09

biological father divorced my mom

20:11

when I was, when she was two, when I was

20:13

two, that'd be weird. They got married. Kinda weird. They

20:15

got married at the moment. And

20:18

then, but my stepfather

20:20

came in when I was four and he was

20:22

amazing and great. But he was there when

20:24

this happened, did he step in? He,

20:26

he, well gosh,

20:28

we're really going deep. It's great. He,

20:32

when I was in sixth grade,

20:34

something happened where my

20:36

mom lost it. And

20:39

my stepdad said, if you ever hit

20:42

Rachel again, I'm leaving you. And

20:45

she came in and told me that. And I was like, and

20:48

my stepdad never said that to

20:50

me but I knew that he

20:53

was aware. He

20:56

had your back. Yeah. And he

20:58

was never, he never had a temper. Did you ever

21:00

hit him? I don't know. I

21:03

never saw it. You didn't see him privy to that. I never saw it.

21:05

I saw them fight. I saw the two

21:07

of them fight. Right. Which

21:09

was not great. No,

21:12

I remember some fights of my parents and it

21:14

was, it reminded me of the Shining. Yeah.

21:17

Wendy, give me the back

21:19

Wendy. I'm not

21:21

gonna hurt you. That's terrifying. I'm telling

21:23

you, yeah, well, there was some moments. There

21:25

was some moments. Yeah. Yeah, it was my

21:28

family. It was, yeah, it was completely, everybody

21:31

who listens knows, but dysfunctional.

21:34

And you know, what happens is you

21:36

live with it and you

21:38

cover up the hurt and you numb

21:40

the hurt and you hide the hurt

21:42

and you pretend you're someone else and

21:44

you pretend everything's great and you use

21:46

laughter and comedy and all these things

21:48

to get you through it. And

21:50

then one day it pops up and

21:52

you're like, oh my God,

21:55

I'm damaged. I've been damaged for

21:58

a while and I haven't dealt with this. where

22:00

do I even start? Did you go into therapy?

22:03

Oh yeah, I went away to

22:05

this place for 30 days and people are like, oh my

22:08

god, I know you were a drug actor. No, no, no,

22:10

no, alcohol, no. No. No,

22:12

it's just, I have a lot of stuff that

22:14

I need to do. That's major, that's so great.

22:16

I just left one day and everybody was like,

22:18

I'm gone for 30 days. But also,

22:20

Michael, as a man, men

22:23

don't do that. That's massive. Well, men are starting to

22:25

do this. Yes, I shouldn't say they- I think the stigma

22:27

is changing because- I didn't mean to black and white that

22:29

way. Because people like us are opening up. Yeah. People like

22:31

Ryan over here, he goes to therapy now. Ryan,

22:33

good. It's good, so it's like, you

22:35

just have to know, you

22:38

have to learn, you

22:41

can correct your behavior if you understand it. And

22:44

if you learn to understand where it comes

22:46

from, then you could start piecing

22:48

it together and go, oh, this is the way,

22:51

this is why I respond the way I do.

22:53

This is why I'm really insecure. This is why

22:55

I have anxiety. And

22:57

if you could do that and accept it,

22:59

but there are some things I feel that,

23:01

as much work as I've done, there are

23:03

some things I think that can never be

23:05

corrected. And that just,

23:08

they're sort of embedded in me. That,

23:12

although I know I'm not

23:14

a complete idiot, but there's parts of

23:16

me that feel like you're a

23:18

dummy. You're not smart. How

23:20

do you not know that? You're dumb. And I

23:23

hear the voices. Yeah. And

23:25

I don't know how to get out of that. And it's like, of

23:28

course the therapist will sit there and say, well,

23:31

look at your career. Look at all the things you've

23:34

done. Look at this and this and this and this. Don't

23:37

you realize that all these things are untrue, that

23:39

you feel, you're not dumb? No,

23:42

still feel it. Yeah. You

23:46

never lose it. You just acknowledge it and

23:48

go, all right, backseat, dude. Exactly. Well,

23:50

you just get better at quickly

23:53

acknowledging it. And

23:55

then saying, thank you so much. That's not really helpful right

23:57

now. And you may have to do that 15

23:59

times. times a day. Yeah. You

24:02

know, especially, but like I mean, I love

24:04

working. I love you love

24:06

that environment. I do. Really? And

24:08

I I love it mainly

24:11

because I'm focused on being of service.

24:13

Does that make sense? Like I'm being

24:16

of service to the director and to

24:18

the crew. I love being

24:20

a part of that environment. We all know what

24:22

the rules are. Yeah. This is, you know, it

24:24

feels very safe to me. I like being

24:27

in that environment emotionally.

24:29

I mean, I love it creatively and I and

24:32

I feel like I excel at

24:34

it, but I and I don't I mean

24:36

I don't excel at a lot

24:38

of other things. Like I've always said I'm so

24:40

glad it worked out as an actor because I

24:42

have no other skill set. I don't think that's

24:45

true, but. Okay. Well, yeah. I mean, I could.

24:47

Yeah. But that's what you that's your passion. That's

24:49

what you love. It gives you purpose. Right. But

24:51

I feel confident in that environment, but that doesn't

24:53

mean I feel confident as a mother. Really? Like,

24:56

I mean, that it's that's got to be really

24:58

difficult because. Well, yeah. No,

25:00

but I've but this is the thing I

25:02

feel like I'm not alone in that any

25:04

other mother sitting next to me right now

25:06

would say, yes, I feel the same way.

25:08

Yeah. I mean, you know,

25:10

it's all a spectrum, right? Like some

25:12

mothers may feel more confident than others,

25:14

but but I mean, I'm really

25:16

proud of myself. I think I do a really good

25:19

job. I work really hard. Yeah. But but

25:21

that incident that I was talking about, like spanking my seven

25:24

year old. It

25:27

was so great to immediately call

25:31

the aide that works with us. Henry's

25:35

Henry's one to one aide that works with him.

25:37

And he's great. You wouldn't really know he was

25:39

autistic or had age. I mean, you'd be like

25:41

that kids on fire, but he's amazing

25:43

and so funny and very

25:46

sweet. And he's

25:48

great. But then also calling his dad

25:50

who we're we're divorced

25:52

and and

25:56

we're different people. But it was great to

25:58

immediately say that. This is what happened. I

26:01

regret it, but we need to deal with it as

26:04

a family. And it's

26:07

a learning, of course I felt incredible

26:09

shame for spanking him. Where,

26:12

I grew up, every kid on my block got spanked. You still

26:14

feel it. Every kid on my block. Even though it was one

26:16

incident and it wasn't even a big deal. One

26:19

time. But I know one time you still, you

26:22

feel guilty for it. I regret, yeah. And it's understandable,

26:24

but it's not, it doesn't, anybody

26:27

on the outside looking in would be like, so

26:29

what? Let it go. And we

26:31

all do it. We all do it. We grab our son, we

26:33

do this, we go, no! Or you hit

26:35

him on the butt. You know, you

26:37

just say, you know, most people don't think

26:39

of it, but since these things happen to

26:42

you, that's why you carry it. Yeah. You

26:44

know, and you were talking about you

26:47

and your ex, and we don't have to talk

26:49

about it, but you said we were different people.

26:51

I wanna know how

26:54

it happens where you get married and then you

26:56

get divorced, you go, oh, we're just different people.

26:58

How do you not know you're different people when

27:00

you get married? When you're dating, okay. Well, we

27:02

were, when we got together, we're both single. We

27:05

didn't have children. I was

27:07

working, he's working, he's a violinist. He was

27:09

working in New York on Broadway. He'd

27:11

been working there for 13 years. We

27:14

had many, like we had multiple

27:17

friends. What am

27:19

I saying? Not multiple friends, but we had

27:21

a lot of friends in common. Yeah. And

27:24

that was great. So our- We had many

27:26

friends. So, sorry, you

27:28

made me laugh. That works, that works. You made me laugh

27:30

and I snore. Mutual friends. We had

27:33

mutual friends, that's right. We had a lot of

27:35

mutual friends and that was amazing. And

27:39

then it's very, I

27:41

think it's very easy when

27:43

you're, or easier when

27:45

you're dating someone and you're single

27:48

and you don't have any, there's

27:50

no real obligations, right? You don't, aside

27:53

from like pets or things like that, there's nothing else

27:55

that you're taking care of and

27:57

you can fly whenever you want to go somewhere or you can-

28:00

You're your own responsibility. Exactly. You have to

28:02

take care of yourself, right? And when children

28:04

come into the mix, that's

28:06

when it's like

28:08

fertilizer for all your character defects. You

28:11

know what I mean? For all of your imperfections.

28:13

True colors. Exactly, because the

28:16

things that made us realize we were different people

28:18

is that I was working on Lucifer at the

28:20

time and also Suits when we

28:22

had Henry. And we didn't realize

28:24

in the beginning that Lucifer was

28:27

gonna be shooting in Vancouver. We thought it was

28:29

gonna be in LA. So I had

28:31

to travel a lot. And I

28:34

was saying, I'm gonna

28:36

need a night nurse to

28:38

get up with the kids, get up with

28:40

Henry. If

28:42

you're working long hours and you're doing all these

28:44

things, you're gonna need some help. Right, and he was

28:46

adamant against it because that's just not the way

28:48

he was raised. He grew up in Michigan and he

28:50

was like, I don't want somebody else taking care

28:52

of our child. And I said, okay, well. Then you

28:55

do it. It's stressing me out, right. And so

28:57

I'm not dissing

28:59

him. Do

29:01

you see what I'm saying? I'm just saying we have different thoughts on

29:03

it. And we had

29:05

different thoughts about finances

29:09

when it came to what we found important.

29:11

I grew up very poor.

29:14

I worked very hard to get to a certain place in my

29:16

career. And I was like, well,

29:18

I would like to drive in an

29:20

Audi. And he was like, well, no,

29:22

I think if you're gonna drive, you

29:25

don't need to drive an Audi. And

29:28

I was like, and then I internalized

29:30

that. Just like, I

29:34

don't wanna talk too much about him because he's

29:36

not here. No, you're just saying that. It's just

29:38

that when you have children, you

29:43

don't know how somebody's going to parent really

29:45

until you're in it. And you

29:47

both have different kinds of thoughts. That's all you're saying.

29:49

You're not like putting them down. You're just saying, hey,

29:52

you think this way, I think this way. And

29:55

it just ended up not being beneficial

29:57

to both of us. Right, and we went to

29:59

therapy. together and I talked a lot about it

30:02

in therapy. Do

30:04

you still talk? Oh yeah. He

30:06

and his partner and his girlfriend. The way you said that, I

30:08

can tell you're very close. Yeah, we

30:11

are. And I

30:13

think the great thing about my son

30:15

having special needs is that

30:17

it's really bonded us very

30:19

quickly. That's awesome. That's rare, that's fucking rare.

30:22

I know and like his partner,

30:24

Aaron, I

30:26

love her. If

30:28

she ever leaves us, I am going with

30:31

her. No, I love her and I took

30:33

her, we had like a

30:35

mother's son for Mother's Day. We had a mother's son

30:37

dance at their elementary school and

30:39

I have another son, Otto Five as well.

30:41

And he's a door, Otto. I

30:43

said it, Otto. It's Otto. It's Otto. It's like,

30:46

and you know, remember when we- Otto. Well, you

30:48

know all the kids. His name is Otto.

30:52

That's how we say it. That's how we say it, like a robot. But

30:56

he, you know, remember when we were filming and a lot

30:58

of the camera equipment has Otto Nemens on it? No.

31:02

You've never seen that on the camera

31:04

equipment? Maybe. Dougalet,

31:07

no, I'm just kidding. No, don't

31:09

Google it. No, no, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. But

31:11

I saw that name and I loved it. I've always

31:13

loved it. I love that name too. And

31:16

then my ex-husband is German. You

31:19

speak German, you speak German? What

31:22

was I gonna say? I almost responded in

31:24

Spanish. Guten

31:28

Tag, Ich liebe. I

31:30

love. Ich liebe. Efiebe

31:32

dish. Gutenacht. Like we

31:34

say, I love you goodnight. Gutenacht. Gutenacht.

31:37

I think, yeah. Guten Morgan. Yeah,

31:39

you speak German, obviously. I can speak

31:41

Bissin a little. Okay,

31:43

because Christian's family is from- Munchin?

31:47

No, near Frankfurt in, gosh,

31:49

why can't I think of it right now, I say it all the time. Cologne.

31:54

It's a great, no, Cologne's beautiful. Yeah. But-

31:57

I don't know, but regardless. But regardless. But I love that

31:59

you all get along. Yeah, well, so we went

32:01

to this mother-son dance and I

32:03

said, Aaron, you should come with Henry and

32:05

Otto. And it was a big moment for

32:07

us. Because she was

32:09

like, thank you for that. And my

32:12

ex-husband was so great. And he was like, and I said,

32:15

she's with us all the time. Of course she's

32:17

gonna go. And my son's hearts are big enough.

32:21

They know that I'm their mommy, but they

32:23

also can have many. Two mommies. Yes.

32:26

Yeah. Why not? I find

32:28

dating to be difficult, especially

32:30

since you're a celebrity and you're

32:32

back and maybe you're already with someone. But is

32:34

it tough? Yeah, no.

32:37

It is tough. I think it's tough because

32:39

you never really know. Like

32:41

you have, we have so much material out there,

32:44

right? That people can watch. And then they get

32:46

this idea that you're Sheila says from

32:48

Suits. I was like, I'm not, I'm really

32:50

not Sheila. I don't wake up like this.

32:52

No, no, who does? I

32:55

wake up with red splotchy skin. Who

32:57

cares? It's

32:59

called life. Oh, but this goes back to me being a

33:01

cheerleader in the seventh grade. I was bone

33:03

white, no melanin in my skin, big

33:06

birthmark up the back of my leg. It

33:08

was not, it was not right. You talk about like

33:11

it's past tense. Like you don't have the birthmark anymore.

33:13

Right, I had it laser it off. No, I've had

33:15

people say to me, you could just laser that off.

33:18

What, are they German? I know I made it sound like German.

33:20

You could just have these people laser it off. You

33:22

don't need to have your birthmark. No, but it was a French woman.

33:24

It was a costume designer. That's

33:27

part of you. Yeah, not very proud of it. I

33:30

have a mole and it's

33:33

not going away. Where is your mole? Take

33:36

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33:38

your back. I have a mole in my

33:40

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33:42

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33:45

like, it's nice. Yeah, I had a mole right

33:47

here. Very famous mole. Let me

33:49

see it. No, well it's gone now. Let me see

33:51

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33:53

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and a member of DSC. What

37:36

is your, what's the most favorite thing in terms

37:39

of work that you've done? Like you sit here

37:41

and tell me you love Lucifer because you probably

37:43

did. I did. I loved,

37:45

great role. And I loved the

37:47

family. Yeah. The fan. I mean, Tom

37:50

Ellis. I had him on the podcast. He was

37:52

fantastic. Isn't he awful? Yeah.

37:54

He's such a dick. Really a dick.

37:56

No, he's so handsome and welcoming and.

38:00

and sweet and humble. He's totally like

38:02

that all the time.

38:04

That's what I hear from everybody. What

38:06

do you think when you think of

38:08

your favorite projects? Yeah. What

38:10

comes to mind? Sea Quest? I

38:15

like Sea Quest. You know the story behind that. You're like,

38:17

no I don't, Rachel, I do not. Is it a good

38:19

story? I didn't read everything about you. It is a good

38:21

story. I was a nanny for Roy Scheider way back in

38:23

the day. What? Not for him, but for

38:25

his child. Yes,

38:28

I understand that. He was 60. I

38:31

remember I used to get- I was so sad when he

38:33

passed. So much, oh, I know. He's

38:35

really close to Barry Sondenfeld. And I worked

38:37

with Barry Sondenfeld. Roy

38:39

Scheider. Roy Scheider. Oh man. He was

38:42

amazing. He was so kind and very

38:44

private. And I remember I was living

38:46

in New York catering. And one of

38:48

the catering people said, I

38:50

have a client that I think would really

38:52

like you to ever babysit, are you ever

38:54

nanny? And I was like, well, I babysit.

38:57

Like I wasn't. I mean, I was so green. I

38:59

was just like, I babysit. But he hired you. So

39:02

I met with them, they hired me. I would go

39:04

out to the Hamptons. Yeah, I

39:06

remember they had a house in the Hamptons

39:08

on the beach. Yes, yes. You know. Yeah.

39:11

And Brenda King Scheider, his wife,

39:15

was so great. She used to tell me that she was

39:17

roommates with Helen Hunt back in the day and whatever. She

39:19

gave me a mattress. I had to drive like near here.

39:22

Like right by the old Jerry's Deli on the truck. You're not gonna

39:24

tell me Roy Scheider gave you this role. Yes,

39:26

he did. I was a nanny

39:29

and he said, we were talking

39:31

about acting and I was always like, he's not

39:33

gonna know if I'm good or not or whatever.

39:35

But he said, well, do you have your sad

39:37

card? And I was like, I don't. And he said,

39:39

well, this is what I'm gonna do. When we

39:41

move out to New York, I mean to

39:43

Los Angeles, we're

39:46

gonna give you, we're gonna bring you in

39:49

as an extra. And then I'm gonna

39:51

give you a line. And

39:53

nobody's gonna know, but we're gonna pick you out of the

39:55

extras and just say, hey, we need you to say this. And

39:58

then you're gonna say this.

40:00

that line and then you're

40:02

gonna get your side card. And I was like,

40:04

wow, I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm so

40:07

freaked out. I don't know if it's gonna happen.

40:09

And then of course he goes, this person's gonna

40:11

call you. And so I get

40:13

a call from this PA and they're like, we

40:15

need you tomorrow morning to be blah, blah, blah

40:17

at this time, going to

40:19

wardrobe. I did it. And

40:22

then I was so, it was very first

40:24

time on like a soundstage or anything. It

40:26

was amazing. I had done, and

40:28

then I started doing background work on the original 90210,

40:30

but that's a whole other story. But

40:34

they, that happened.

40:37

The picture out, he picked the line. He wasn't on set.

40:39

What was the line? It was

40:41

this, these orbs. These

40:44

orbs. You remember it. I do,

40:46

these orbs could change the

40:49

two kids. I can't remember their names. These

40:51

orbs could change, let's

40:53

say Peggy and Justin's

40:55

lives forever. And

40:58

I'm holding these orbs. Were you nervous? Oh

41:00

my, oh, was I nervous? I was so

41:04

nervous, but I was also

41:07

excited. Does that make sense? So it's like, I just

41:09

was like, here we go. This is your opportunity. Game

41:11

on. I was like, game on. So then cut to

41:13

the, when the episode is supposed to air and

41:16

I'm in Los Angeles and my

41:18

parents are in Ohio. My whole family's watching

41:20

and I'm like, this is it. And they're

41:22

like, okay, we see you. Like they close

41:24

up on me. They close up on

41:26

me. And they're like, okay. And then I'm

41:28

listening and I can hear them.

41:31

And then they're like, great. Yeah, they're like, great job.

41:33

And I was like, did

41:36

you hear me say my line? And they're like,

41:38

no. And I was like, what?

41:41

They cut it. But that

41:43

was always the intention. You got the

41:46

sad card. Yes. And from there, that's

41:49

when he, did you read

41:51

for the role? No. That's

41:54

all you did? Yeah, that's all I did was one

41:56

line. That's

41:58

it. Yeah. That's amazing. Roy

42:00

Scheider, did you go to his funeral?

42:02

Yeah, no, I didn't. Jeez, man.

42:05

I didn't. Did you? No. Oh.

42:07

I didn't know Roy. Oh, I thought you knew

42:09

him. I just knew where he lived. It just said, oh, oh.

42:11

Weird. Really odd. No,

42:14

that's hilarious. Did you audition for Hangover?

42:17

I did. How many times? Just

42:21

once. With Todd Phillips. I think. Yeah,

42:23

with Todd Phillips. Do you

42:25

know I auditioned for it? You did. And he sat

42:27

there and he looked at me and he goes, you're

42:32

great? And I go, well,

42:36

thanks very much. He goes, but we've

42:38

already cast the character you're right. What? Todd.

42:41

They already cast Bradley Cooper. He goes, I

42:43

was. Todd Phillips. He goes, because

42:45

I think I was going, I was reading for

42:47

Ed Helms character. Yeah. And he goes,

42:50

you're right for the other character, but we've cast it. Ah.

42:52

Then I go, hey, thanks, man. Thanks for being

42:55

honest. Nobody ever does that. No, that's true. Todd's very, very direct.

42:57

I left my agent, goes, how'd it go? I go, I didn't get it. What do you

42:59

mean you didn't get it? You don't know that. He told me.

43:03

But I always commend

43:05

him for doing that. I think that was

43:07

pretty. Because that was a life changing experience.

43:09

You were dynamite in that. Thank you. I

43:11

mean, you were so good. Was it fun

43:13

and playful on set? Yeah. Just

43:15

always like where they say more bitchy. More,

43:17

more. Oh, you have, if

43:20

we could see, if you

43:22

could see, but my favorite thing to do, and

43:24

nobody does this anymore, but on the DVD, there's

43:28

the director's cut. And Todd goes

43:30

through and talks about every single scene,

43:33

with Bradley and Ed and

43:35

the guys. And what Todd

43:37

says is so, it's like,

43:39

I was like, okay, I'm done. I'm fine.

43:42

Like after the wedding scene, like it

43:44

was, I was like, yeah, it was

43:46

fun. And he had, I had worked

43:48

with him in tiny little

43:50

parts in other movies. Like I had

43:52

auditioned for him a few times on other things. So this

43:55

was great, but we

43:58

had no idea that the hangover was gonna be the hangover. We

44:01

just knew that we were having a lot of fun.

44:03

Well, you did groundlings. I did. So

44:05

did you get to improvise a lot? I did. Like

44:08

a lot. You guys were going nuts. Todd

44:10

could not hear me say enough swear

44:13

words. Enough disgusting, foul

44:15

things. What's one thing you

44:17

remember doing that never made it to anything, but

44:20

you remember, oh my God, everybody was in stitches. Well, I

44:22

remember saying, suck my cock. Like. To

44:24

your husband. To Ed. Yeah, to my.

44:27

To your. Oh, no, no, no. This is to Zach. Zach

44:30

Galifianakis. Oh, Zach, Zach. Like the tags on that.

44:32

Oh. Like so many tags.

44:34

We played with so many awful things. Yeah.

44:37

And I was like, wow. Did they break? Like even

44:39

after I did it, oh yeah. But Todd was like,

44:41

say this, say this, say this. And

44:44

I just did it. I just was like, okay.

44:47

And straight faced. Yep. Did

44:49

you ever break and laugh? Yes, yes. Who made you laugh? Ed

44:54

probably in the doctor scene, like at the

44:56

doctor, you know. The

45:00

doctor scene. Yeah, yep. So

45:02

he cracked you up. Yes, but he also

45:04

was so great because I think

45:07

that was our first scene that we shot. I'm

45:09

not sure, but I can't remember. Maybe

45:11

we did the wedding scene first, but he was like, we were

45:13

doing the scene and I was doing it as scripted. And Ed

45:15

looks at me and he's like, come on. Come

45:18

on, improvise more. Say

45:20

like crazy, like, come on.

45:23

And I was like, all right. And

45:25

then that's when I said things like, and that little

45:27

girl up on that stage, who's

45:30

dry humping and fucking the fucking

45:32

stage, right? And

45:35

he's like, that's, and like I could see in his eyes,

45:37

he was like, that's what I, and so,

45:40

and then to bring it back to be where she's like so

45:42

prim, right,

45:45

was so fun, but that wouldn't have happened if

45:48

Ed hadn't said, come on. Come

45:50

on. Like he, because we had worked

45:52

together so much, like on the daily show and then done

45:54

other things. And so we were friends and he was like,

45:57

you gotta let it rip. Do people still let

45:59

you? rip. They

46:02

do. They do. Because

46:04

they should. Because they should know your abilities. They do,

46:06

well, yeah, they do, but I also. Obviously in Lucifer

46:08

you can't really do it. No, no, no, but I

46:10

was like, but we had to do that a little

46:12

bit, which was fun, but it was, it's

46:15

not really the right vibe for it.

46:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was just

46:20

doing, I

46:24

just did like leverage, redemption,

46:27

which was bizarre, whatever. And

46:32

great, and I got to improvise on that,

46:34

which was really fun. And

46:38

I'm not, yeah. Because I'm so like from a theater,

46:40

because first I'm a theater actor, and then

46:42

I went to the groundings. So I'm always like,

46:44

you have to do what's written on the page

46:46

first, out of respect for the writers, because as

46:48

a writer, we've worked so

46:50

hard on making those words what

46:54

they should be. And until somebody says, okay, make

46:56

it your own, I feel like

46:58

it's disrespectful to the writer not to do what's on

47:00

the page. I bet you auditioned for bridesmaids. I

47:03

didn't. What? I didn't,

47:05

no. You should be up for everything

47:07

like that. Well, this is the thing. Annie

47:11

and Kristen Wiig knew me from

47:13

the groundings. They already knew that

47:15

they, I don't know,

47:17

I have no idea what that process was

47:19

like, but because Wendy McClendon-Covey was

47:21

from the groundings, Melissa's from the, they knew

47:24

what that cast was

47:26

gonna be, and they knew who they wanted

47:28

for it. So, and

47:30

it was amazing. Yeah, oh yeah. And it's

47:34

like one of the greatest films ever. I

47:37

think Kristen Wiig is like the funniest person on the planet.

47:39

I think you're absolutely right. She is. She

47:42

hasn't done anything lately. Have

47:45

you watched Paul Morayel? Oh no, is that good? So good.

47:47

Really? Oh my God, it's so good. All right, I was

47:49

gonna ask if there are any shows that I should watch,

47:53

I'm tough. I'm

47:55

really tough on shows. I'm so

47:58

tough that I watched this movie the other night. And

48:00

it was such a piece of shit that I demanded

48:02

I to give me my money back. I'm

48:05

based on principle. And I did, and I

48:07

emailed them and they gave me 5.99 back. What

48:09

about your time? Did they give you your time back? No. That's

48:12

not nice. But that movie was like,

48:14

I'm not giving money to them. Can you say what movie

48:16

it was? No. Come on. Because

48:18

it's like a small movie. It's not like a big, you know,

48:20

I just don't want to hurt people, but I do want to,

48:22

I do want to hurt people. Yeah. No,

48:25

I do want- I know what that's like.

48:28

So many bad, you know. Yeah. No,

48:30

I find that, it

48:33

was so great because I just did this film, but we got to see it

48:35

in a theater and I was like, God. What

48:37

is it? We have to go see films in theaters.

48:39

Yeah. It's Mother of the Bride, which

48:41

is on Netflix right now. And who do

48:43

you play? I play Janice.

48:47

Of course you do. Of course I play Janice, who's

48:49

like the single drunk

48:51

friend of Burke Shields. Oh, I get to play drunk. A

48:53

little bit, not really. I mean, like, I could have played,

48:57

you know, that's hard too. Playing drunk,

48:59

the best drunk of all time is Dudley Moore

49:01

and not Arthur. True, that's

49:03

true. And also Jack Lemmon plays a good- He's

49:05

taking the knife of the cheese. You

49:08

think he likes cheese? That

49:10

movie is my favorite. It's my favorite, I can

49:12

quote that movie all day. It's my favorite comedy

49:14

of all time. What about Tootsie? I

49:16

like Tootsie, but Arthur is at the level.

49:18

Yeah. Arthur's like- But he's super

49:21

f- Arthur, I killed a man

49:23

once. He goes, he

49:25

came into our kitchen in the middle of the night and

49:28

I stabbed him. Yeah. I

49:30

guess you ate out that night. I was

49:32

in the kitchen like that. Just

49:35

one after another, I just, in the stitches.

49:37

What's your favorite comedy of all time? I

49:40

mean, there's so many different genres. Like, I

49:42

love everything from Tootsie. Like, I mean, but

49:44

I love that just for nostalgic reasons. Yeah.

49:47

And he's an actor. Is that my phone?

49:49

Rude. No. And

49:51

then, oh my gosh, but

49:54

I love things like Step Brothers. Oh,

49:56

that's fucking phenomenal. You can't,

49:58

I mean, It's ridiculous. I

50:00

mean, and I do love the hangover, which is

50:02

gross that I'm saying that. The hangover is hilarious.

50:04

In fact, I need to watch it again. Yeah.

50:06

The first one. Yeah. And

50:08

then, oh my God,

50:11

I love, but

50:14

I mean, like I love old movies, like Raising

50:16

Arizona. Airplane. Oh, airplane's so great. But

50:18

like Raising Arizona. Raising Arizona.

50:20

Come on. Christmas vacation. Stop

50:22

it. It's one of the funniest. Oh my God.

50:25

Oh my God. It is one of the

50:27

funniest. Chevy Chase. He's so brilliant. When

50:30

they're singing the carols at

50:32

the, Step Brothers.

50:34

Also when. The boat. I

50:37

can't, the boat, but also when, what's

50:40

his name? The dad, who is one

50:42

of my favorite actors of all time. Oh yeah, he was

50:44

in Dahmer. He was the father. Oh yeah. And also he

50:46

was. Richard Jenkins. Richard Jenkins. Oh,

50:49

I would love to work with Richard. That's a dream. I

50:51

would love to work with Richard Jenkins. Let's call Richard Jenkins.

50:53

We should say we have got you. We would like to

50:55

work with you. And then watching him play such a. Paroling

50:58

character. Yeah. You know, it was awesome. Yeah. There's

51:00

a lot of great movies out there. I don't

51:02

think. Wait, wait, wait, wait. When Richard Jenkins is

51:05

in Step Brothers and he's like, it's

51:07

Christmas Eve and he goes down and he goes,

51:10

he goes, I'm going to go get a drink at the bar. And,

51:15

and Mary-Sine Virgin looks at him and she goes, but

51:17

it's Christmas Eve. What? But it's Christmas Eve. And

51:20

he goes, yeah, Merry Christmas. And

51:22

he walks down the door. I'm sorry. I

51:25

don't know why. It's just so subtle. That moment

51:27

he just, yeah, he just tosses it. You know,

51:30

he's just like, Merry Christmas to

51:32

his wife and his family. And then

51:34

he's like, you idiots. Like

51:36

it's just. My favorite

51:38

is honestly, when he's Will

51:40

is singing. He goes, he's like,

51:42

I don't know. My voice is all scratchy.

51:45

I haven't seen in a while. I'm out

51:47

of tune. I don't know. It's just like,

51:49

I don't know. It's like, look, look, look.

51:53

And he's doing that thing. And it's just like, you sing like

51:55

an angel. It just

51:58

killed me. That movie just killed me. There's a lot

52:00

of funny movies out there. I know. But

52:02

they don't- But wait, what's your favorite comedy?

52:04

I mean, I think Arthur Slapshot. Yeah, you

52:06

said that. You're like, are you listening? Yeah.

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the way, I don't know why I thought of it. When I

53:18

think of Shelly Long, I think of Cheers, and then I think

53:20

of Kirstie Alley, and you worked with Kirstie Alley. Yeah, I did.

53:22

Was she great to work with? Well, yeah, I'm a Scientologist, so

53:24

I'm not. Oh, you're, no. I was like, I

53:26

was, let's see if, this would have been

53:29

my response if you said that, play it real, go

53:31

ahead. Go ahead. So,

53:33

yeah, Kirstie Alley. Yeah,

53:35

I worked with her, and I'm a Scientologist.

53:38

Oh, cool. Is

53:40

that, do you get creamed

53:42

for that? Do

53:44

you get creamed for that? No,

53:47

and can I say this, though, about, what

53:50

is this? Like, it just went crazy jazz-y.

53:52

Stop. All

53:54

right, Kirstie was amazing to work with. Right.

53:57

She's so kind, and as

53:59

far as a woman, who was dealing, she was fat. She

54:01

was saying, and I'm not, I'm saying,

54:03

she was saying she was fat. She was

54:05

like fat actress, she approved the title. It

54:08

was a lot, right? And

54:11

this is what happened, we were in the show together,

54:13

and she said, why are we dressing Rachel

54:17

like Holly Hobby? She's

54:19

like, why are you, she's so, she's a

54:21

little, she's like

54:24

so cute, let's dress her. She's petite. Yeah,

54:26

let's dress her and make her look great.

54:29

Wow. She didn't, I mean. That's

54:31

cool, because most actresses are actors,

54:34

I don't wanna say actresses, but like,

54:36

they wanna look at the better. Yes.

54:39

They always, are women like that, be honest? Yes, well

54:41

I think. Do you think a lot of women are sort of like, especially

54:44

if they're the lead? I think if they're extraordinarily

54:46

insecure, right, and you're not to that place

54:48

in your life where you're like, everybody needs

54:50

to fucking win, and I want you

54:52

to win, and there

54:55

is no competition. And she wanted everybody to

54:57

win, Kirsty. Yep, she did. I

54:59

have a theory, never have your,

55:01

a girlfriend, who's a friend that's

55:04

a girl, set you up with

55:06

somebody, because she will never set you

55:08

up with somebody prettier than her, period.

55:13

And I called one of my friends out, I go, really?

55:15

That happened to you. This is what you

55:17

think is my type? I

55:20

think she's cute, I don't, no.

55:23

You think you're way prettier. Yeah. That

55:25

was just my theory. That's good, no, I get it,

55:27

I get it. But

55:29

this is my other thing, though, is that I think your

55:31

friend has a thing for you. No, god, no. If she

55:33

didn't set you up with somebody prettier

55:36

than her. Because

55:39

if my beautiful friends were single,

55:42

do you know what I mean? If my friends, I

55:44

have really beautiful friends. Cheryl Hines is one of

55:47

my very best friends. Susan Yegley

55:49

married to Kevin Neelan. I

55:51

love Kevin, he was on the pod, he's so

55:53

crazy. Yeah, they're the greatest. And I

55:56

would set my friends up with them.

56:00

I was like, back in the day, we were in the groundings. I thought, you need to date.

56:02

You just said, I'll connect my, you want your friends to

56:04

be happy. Yeah. It's your choice to go

56:06

out with them, but you should go out with them. See, that is

56:08

how it should be. Yeah. And one of my

56:10

friends said to me, hey, your friend Jill is

56:13

really cute. I go, I'll talk to her. Yeah.

56:16

Jill, thanks for cute. I'll go out with him.

56:18

Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

56:21

You're an adult. Yes. Yeah. But

56:24

you said earlier that you felt like dating is hard.

56:27

Right now. Yeah, it's hard. I'm

56:30

not with someone right now or are you? No, I'm not with someone right now,

56:33

but you should see the message on

56:35

this dating app that I was talking

56:37

to this girl on. Are you

56:39

ready for this? Oh God, yes, I'm ready.

56:42

I'm not gonna say it. I don't even know why. I'm not gonna

56:44

say the name. I don't know why. Oh, they deleted

56:46

me. Good. Huh?

56:49

Yeah. But they deleted me because I told them,

56:51

you need to find someone. I

56:53

put them in their place. They

56:56

said- What? You need to tell me what it

56:58

was said. It was like, I'm immediately,

57:00

I was like, hey, how are, she

57:02

said hello first. She goes, hello. And I

57:04

go, hey, how's your day going? You

57:07

know, blah, blah, blah. Ignored

57:09

everything I said. I go, I like your name. It's

57:12

unique. Where are

57:14

you from? And then she goes, look,

57:16

I'm looking for a serious relationship. I'm

57:18

looking for someone who has the same needs as

57:20

me. And it went on. I go, maybe

57:23

we should start out with, how

57:26

you doing? And let's chat. What

57:29

are your hobbies? Let's just see if there's any kind of-

57:31

Very serious. And then she said something else. She goes, I

57:33

just like to get to the punch. Like, you know, what

57:35

are you looking for? And I'm looking for

57:37

someone who's fun. I'm looking for

57:39

someone who is engaging and not so serious

57:42

all the time. Maybe, and

57:44

I think the last thing I said was like, I wish

57:46

she- What was her response? It was just

57:48

weird. And I just said, hey, I wish you the best. I

57:51

hope you find someone great. So I really, I didn't

57:53

delete her though. I wanted her to read that. I

57:55

wish you the best, but I don't think, you know, you seem

57:57

a little too serious for me. I feel like I'm in a

57:59

job interview. I said that. I feel like I'm in a job

58:01

interview. Loosen up. It was

58:04

just wow. Such a cute,

58:06

charming on the outside, but maybe

58:09

this person had some bad relationships

58:13

or was burned or something. I don't

58:15

know. What about you? No, I was just gonna

58:17

say, was she over 30? Yes.

58:23

Okay. Maybe, yeah, she's

58:25

39. I don't worry so much about age as

58:29

long as the person takes care of

58:33

themselves is funny. They

58:38

don't have to be funny. They have to

58:40

understand funny. They have to get funny.

58:42

Yeah. I don't need someone like

58:44

me. I don't want to date someone like me. I'd like

58:47

somebody who's a little more, shut

58:49

the fuck up. I

58:52

like when somebody says enough. But

58:56

I have to be attracted to them. Yeah, enough.

59:00

Yeah, so if they have sex with people, I don't care

59:02

how old they are. I mean, I

59:04

don't want to date like a 70 year old. Yeah.

59:07

What's the oldest you've dated? I'm

59:09

gonna say 64. Well, my, my, no,

59:13

I haven't

59:15

dated anyone older than me. Really?

59:19

Yeah. My ex-husband is, I

59:21

do, but I do. Definitely

59:24

do. I do. And I think it's

59:26

a problem because

59:28

guys ask me out that

59:31

are a lot younger than I am. How much

59:33

younger? You date 30 year

59:35

olds? I've been asked out by

59:37

30. Do you say yes? And I'm like, you have

59:39

no idea I could be your mother. That's

59:42

what I like. Yeah, and that's when I

59:44

run a country mile away.

59:46

If they're, yeah. It's

59:49

tough because my ex-husband is

59:51

eight years younger than I am. Okay. But

59:54

I recently, I mean, I had

59:56

been with someone who was in their fifties, which I

59:58

loved. Okay. I loved that. That didn't work

1:00:00

out. That didn't work out. What,

1:00:03

why doesn't it work out? Would I, yeah. I

1:00:06

think, I think we were

1:00:08

just in different places. You know,

1:00:10

I have two little boys. This person

1:00:12

has a grown son. I

1:00:15

think that's. Do you want someone

1:00:17

to come in and eventually be

1:00:20

your partner and be sort of like a

1:00:22

stepdad and be that? Or are you just

1:00:24

looking to date someone, have fun and don't

1:00:27

worry about that. You know, well, I went

1:00:29

into this last relationship in that place. What

1:00:31

place? Where I was like, I just want to

1:00:33

date someone, have fun. Right. And

1:00:36

then what I realized if I'm being really

1:00:38

honest is that, you know, my

1:00:40

boys are part of my life. And

1:00:43

it's not that I, they have

1:00:45

a dad, you know, that's

1:00:48

very involved in their life and we have

1:00:50

a great relationship.

1:00:53

But I think what I would like

1:00:55

is for them to for

1:00:58

them to be a part of the conversation,

1:01:01

right? To not be always be involved

1:01:03

with this person that I'm dating, but

1:01:06

that they have, that they understand who that person

1:01:08

is in my life. Right. And

1:01:10

it's not like you don't, we don't start out right

1:01:12

out of the gate with my kids. Yeah, it's like,

1:01:14

I gotta bring them birthday presents. I just can't be

1:01:16

dating her three months. No. Jesus.

1:01:19

But that's what I even went for in the beginning. Cause I was

1:01:21

like, well, let's just do, I want to know you even

1:01:24

before I introduce you to my kids. So

1:01:26

it was very, it

1:01:29

just became clear that that

1:01:32

we weren't in the same place. Right.

1:01:35

For a lot of reasons. I understand that. But

1:01:37

so, but I'm happy that I

1:01:39

went through that. Yeah. Like, and also

1:01:42

I still talk to this person. Oh good. Yeah.

1:01:45

I'm not like that person that's like. You're like me, you're just,

1:01:47

you know, it's not like I'm. I'm not gonna

1:01:49

cut and run in hate and

1:01:51

say terrible things. Yeah. You know,

1:01:53

and we were also extraordinarily private. So. Really?

1:01:56

Really private. Are you a private person? Not.

1:02:00

Totally, but I think in

1:02:02

that realm of dating, I

1:02:05

think it's important, especially being kind of

1:02:07

known, that you

1:02:09

give yourself the space to be just

1:02:11

the two of you for a little while. Just

1:02:14

the two of you. And

1:02:16

then be with friends, right? Like I want, that's

1:02:19

another thing. Yeah. You know,

1:02:21

like. There's a lot of, there's

1:02:24

a lot of elements to

1:02:26

dating. It's not just am I attracted to

1:02:28

this person. Do

1:02:30

I want to really hang out with

1:02:32

this person all the time? And then do my

1:02:35

friends like this person? Did they get along

1:02:37

with my friends? I think the friend thing

1:02:41

is everything. It really is. I had, I dated someone

1:02:44

and I just, you know, my friend was just, a

1:02:46

couple of my friends were just like, I

1:02:48

don't know. And I'm like, I was hoping you wouldn't

1:02:50

say that, but I knew you were. Yes. Because

1:02:53

I felt it myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're

1:02:55

just telling you what you're already feeling. Yeah, no,

1:02:57

you need to be able to, you need to

1:02:59

be able to, that's

1:03:01

part of it, right? Like bringing

1:03:04

someone into your world and

1:03:06

seeing if that, if that gels.

1:03:08

Yeah. And there's a lot of things

1:03:10

as you get older, you

1:03:12

don't want to chameleon for people. Yeah.

1:03:15

You want to make sure that you're who you are.

1:03:17

Hey, I'm going to say a word you described.

1:03:20

Oh no. Your time. Okay.

1:03:22

Goosebumps. Really,

1:03:27

really satisfying getting to do comedy and drama. Like

1:03:32

really like good drama. Is there

1:03:34

anything going to happen in the future with this?

1:03:37

No, it was picked up for a second season. And then they

1:03:39

told us they're doing a trilogy. So

1:03:41

a whole new cast. Were you

1:03:43

upset? Yeah. That's, I mean, if

1:03:45

you got. Justin Long and I had the greatest time

1:03:47

with him. If you got picked up and they loved

1:03:49

it, what do they want? Well, we worked so hard

1:03:51

on the first season. It was very exciting. And I

1:03:53

loved our executive producers. Like I

1:03:56

love to hear no Malie and Rob Letterman. He's

1:03:58

such a dick. He's a dick and I don't know if

1:04:01

he would have come back for season two, but

1:04:03

if he had come back, I would have done

1:04:05

it. Yeah. Star Trek Voyager. Oh,

1:04:09

hilarious. That's hard. Probably a

1:04:11

lot of lingo. I gave birth to

1:04:13

a baby out my back. It was like

1:04:15

I shit a baby on an episode.

1:04:17

Yes. Yeah.

1:04:20

I have a birthing bar that I'd to push and

1:04:23

shove a baby out my back. I was in a compound.

1:04:26

Was it a lot of shit that they had

1:04:28

to put on you? Not on

1:04:30

me, but on the baby. The baby had cream cheese

1:04:32

and strawberry jam. Is

1:04:34

that what you put on babies to make them look real? That

1:04:36

I don't know. I don't know, but I

1:04:39

have also the greatest story about that, too. Go

1:04:41

ahead. The director. Like after I have the

1:04:43

baby and they put the baby on my arms. I

1:04:46

was so excited and happy. And then

1:04:48

I say maybe someday this baby very

1:04:51

similar to start to Sequest. I was

1:04:53

like, maybe someday this baby will

1:04:55

see the sun because we lived underground. I

1:04:58

don't know why all my sci fi lines are the same, but that

1:05:02

happened. And then the director came up

1:05:04

to me, he goes, OK, can you bring it? And

1:05:08

this is one of my first jobs ever. On

1:05:11

Universal Lot, I think. No, no, no.

1:05:13

It was like a gourd. I can't remember.

1:05:15

Can you bring it? He goes, can you bring it?

1:05:17

And I just looked at him and I

1:05:19

go, yes, I had no idea. What

1:05:21

you were in store for. No, I had no idea what he

1:05:24

thought. But I didn't I didn't say, well, what

1:05:26

do you mean? Like that was this

1:05:28

is what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. But

1:05:31

now I will be very direct and and

1:05:33

say, I don't know what that

1:05:35

means. Like, I have no problem saying, I don't know what that word means.

1:05:38

I don't know. I've not read that book. All those things right

1:05:40

that you think you should know or whatever. And so he said,

1:05:42

can you bring it? And I was like, yes. So

1:05:46

we do another take and he's like, OK, I really need you

1:05:48

to bring it. And I was like, I got you. OK, OK,

1:05:51

OK. Third

1:05:53

take that makeup artist comes

1:05:55

and she blows menthol in my eyes.

1:06:00

and I'd never had menthol in my house before. And you start

1:06:02

crying. And she's like, he wants

1:06:04

you to cry. And

1:06:06

I was like, oh, oh, oh, okay,

1:06:09

I can do that. That's... God,

1:06:12

he had no idea what he was talking

1:06:14

about. He didn't say, well, he

1:06:16

didn't say, I want you to cry. I

1:06:19

don't know, you can say that as a

1:06:21

director. I've said that to people. I don't know

1:06:23

nowadays, I don't know if you can do that. I

1:06:25

don't know if you could say, hey, I want you to cry. I

1:06:28

want you to, if you want, if you would

1:06:30

like to cry, then

1:06:33

I would like also to see

1:06:35

that. Well, I think you can say this

1:06:38

is a big moment where this person breaks

1:06:40

down, where they absolutely lose

1:06:42

it. Are you comfortable doing that? There's

1:06:44

a way he could have gotten into that

1:06:46

conversation. I had a director who was an asshole. He

1:06:49

just was like, he was such a dick. That's shocking.

1:06:51

He goes, he comes up to me and I'm filming

1:06:53

this, and we got along really well. And then he

1:06:55

goes, and he was gonna rush and all that stuff.

1:06:58

And he goes, I want you to do this and then this, and

1:07:00

then say that to him and then do that. And then got off

1:07:02

and I did it. He goes, no, I told

1:07:04

you to turn and then say that and then go,

1:07:06

and I go, whoa,

1:07:08

dude. Why don't

1:07:11

you come up here and slow down and

1:07:13

really direct me and show me exactly what

1:07:15

you want because I don't know what the

1:07:17

fuck you're talking about right now. Yes. And

1:07:20

he was just frantic. I

1:07:22

want you to do, and then this, and

1:07:25

then that. After that moment,

1:07:27

I was just like, this guy's a dick. It

1:07:29

was James Gunn. No, I love James Gunn. I'm

1:07:32

kidding. It was. I love James Gunn.

1:07:34

It was. I can't say it. Oh.

1:07:37

It was. He's not

1:07:39

that big of a director. In fact, I don't know what

1:07:41

he's doing right now. It's

1:07:44

kickoff time and Believe Podcasts are here to

1:07:46

get you ready for the season. He wanted

1:07:49

to change the culture and he wanted me

1:07:51

to be a part of that. With Believe,

1:07:53

you get immediate reactions, game previews, and expert

1:07:55

analysis from all 32 teens, plus

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all of your favorite college. He's just rare

1:08:00

in just about everything he does. Side

1:08:03

line to side line, end zone to end

1:08:05

zone. This was good

1:08:07

for everybody. Just search believe.

1:08:09

That's B-L-E-A-V podcast wherever you

1:08:11

listen. But he

1:08:15

did one thing that I loved, but I

1:08:18

can't talk about it. But I think he's

1:08:20

talented. I just think he's a good fit

1:08:22

that day. Yeah, we've all had that stuff.

1:08:24

Not to minimize it, but. I

1:08:26

mean, you've done so much, friends, the office, curb

1:08:29

your enthusiasm. How was that? Curb your enthusiasm, I

1:08:31

get. That was, I shot

1:08:34

it with Mel Brooks. And you improvised the

1:08:36

whole time? Yeah. You

1:08:38

came up with all this shit. What did they

1:08:40

give you? What did they say before you did this

1:08:42

thing? Okay, so he just said you are a lesbian.

1:08:46

You and your partner

1:08:48

are having a baby that you've adopted from China.

1:08:52

I'm gonna come in and talk to you

1:08:54

about baby names. I'm probably gonna offend

1:08:56

you. And

1:08:58

I want you to respond to that. And I

1:09:00

was like, okay. That's. That's

1:09:03

what Larry David. Larry does this. Larry says this to me.

1:09:05

And there's also an outline. And so

1:09:07

we come in, I'm so nervous.

1:09:11

But you don't have to memorize anything. No,

1:09:13

but that's even scarier because you're. It's

1:09:16

all your words. When you're terrified, it's hard

1:09:18

to be funny, right? Unless you are feeling.

1:09:22

Confident. Right. And it's hard, it's a balance.

1:09:24

You get confident. Larry does this. Just

1:09:27

say a line right now. And I'll be Larry

1:09:29

David. I hate

1:09:31

peanuts. Okay.

1:09:41

I'll do that look. And Cheryl,

1:09:43

okay, so cut to Cheryl Hines is

1:09:47

my best friend. And I call her and I said, I'm sorry.

1:09:50

I'm sure I'm fired. I'm supposed

1:09:52

to work tomorrow, but I'm sure they're gonna fire me. And she

1:09:55

totally goes into hysterics. And she said, right,

1:09:57

not hysterics. She'd be like, I wasn't hysterics.

1:10:00

But starts laughing and says he everybody

1:10:03

feels that way. She's like, that's just a look on Larry's face

1:10:05

And I'm like, well, why didn't you tell me this? She's

1:10:07

like well, you have to experience it for yourself and it's

1:10:10

fine and maybe you wouldn't get that look But she's like,

1:10:12

but that's how we processes thing. She's like, trust me. I

1:10:14

would have known by now if

1:10:16

you weren't coming back and I'm

1:10:18

like, okay, so second day Mel

1:10:21

Brooks is in the scene. I Plays

1:10:23

assistant he comes in and he

1:10:25

I can't even like he touches my face like

1:10:27

with his hands He's in the middle of scenes

1:10:29

like oh Leslie I think my name was and

1:10:32

he's like touch the movies and then he sticks

1:10:34

his leg back behind him Like

1:10:36

he's doing like a L shape. Does that

1:10:38

make sense? Yes. Yeah, he's improvising and being

1:10:41

hilarious and And

1:10:44

I'm like what is going on that everybody

1:10:46

starts dying and laughing and it was amazing

1:10:49

like seeing Larry Working

1:10:51

with Mel Brooks and laughing so hard and Jeff Garland everybody

1:10:53

was great and then at the end

1:10:55

of the day we go we break for lunch and

1:10:58

I go up to him and I say I just

1:11:00

want to tell you what an honor and a privilege

1:11:03

I can't believe I got to shoot something with you

1:11:05

and I'm such a

1:11:07

huge fan of your wife and Bancroft and

1:11:09

the turning like the turning point like we're

1:11:11

talking about dramas like wow And

1:11:13

I said and he was like he was like all

1:11:15

that's he's like that's very kind of you Thank you

1:11:18

so much. And I said, well, it was really nice

1:11:20

and I was wrapped and he gave me a kiss

1:11:22

on the cheek And he said I'll call you tonight

1:11:24

and then he turns around and walked away brilliant

1:11:28

That is so brilliant. Isn't that

1:11:30

amazing? Oh, I know I

1:11:33

needed friends. I did friends I

1:11:35

mean it was fun I mean you just you've

1:11:37

done like such memorable shit

1:11:39

desperate housewives and yeah I mean,

1:11:41

it's crazy unfrosted is out now.

1:11:44

Yes, and you do a voice

1:11:46

I Voice

1:11:48

in it. Yeah. No, I I

1:11:50

play Anna Cabana Bob

1:11:53

Cabana's wife Jerry Seinfeld's wife But

1:11:55

it's very it's very brief like

1:11:58

I brief stuff

1:12:00

Yes, I appear in Unfrosted.

1:12:03

You worked with Seinfeld. I did. All

1:12:05

right. And Melissa McCarthy and Jim Gaffigan and. Jim

1:12:08

Gaffigan is awesome. Melissa McCarthy

1:12:10

is hilarious. So great, yeah, no, it

1:12:12

was amazing to be the off

1:12:15

camera with

1:12:17

all these idiots like Tom Lennon, James

1:12:20

Marsden, Bobby Moynihan.

1:12:23

This is called Shit Talking with Rachel Harris. How

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1:12:35

Raj, this is fast. You have to do.

1:12:38

Okay. Okay. So really

1:12:40

quick answers. Raj, do you have any fond memory

1:12:42

of a time where you splurged on yourself? Yes.

1:12:47

Yes, I remember, well, in high school, I remember buying

1:12:49

myself a Timex watch. I mean, when I was in

1:12:52

college. Cassio. Stop it. I bought myself

1:12:54

a Timex watch and that was a big deal not knowing that

1:12:56

things like Rolex existed. Gen

1:12:59

T, what is the best advice you've ever received from a

1:13:01

teacher or mentor? Ed Vahn, my

1:13:04

college professor. Oh, and by the way, whatever,

1:13:07

that's beside the point, but Ed Vahn, my college professor, I

1:13:09

was like, I just wanna do it right. And he said,

1:13:11

well, that's the problem. He said,

1:13:13

you're never gonna do it right. He said, you have to do

1:13:15

it how you are going to do it. And

1:13:18

he said, it doesn't matter what I think. Doesn't matter what

1:13:20

anybody else thinks. He's like, I'm here to direct you,

1:13:22

but you have to like what you're

1:13:24

doing. You have to make the choice. And

1:13:26

that was pivotal. Sound, sound advice. Jules

1:13:28

M, what is the standout moment for

1:13:30

you from Lucifer? Oh,

1:13:36

just a little scene with Tom and I, where

1:13:38

he says, I want her to

1:13:40

choose me. And

1:13:42

I say, well then tell her. And

1:13:48

just in encompassing, very quickly, I'm sorry. All of

1:13:50

the therapy scenes with Tom and I were

1:13:53

the standout moments. You loved

1:13:55

it. Well, I mean, I've lived in therapy. Like

1:13:57

it just felt so good to be the person that wasn't.

1:14:00

patient. Little Lisa, what

1:14:02

do you think your best quality is? Empathy

1:14:05

and. I'd

1:14:11

say smile your eyes. Oh, that's your

1:14:13

skin, your height. No, I like to. Wow.

1:14:17

No, I like to. I love to laugh. Like

1:14:19

I love to find the funny

1:14:22

in every single situation. Yeah,

1:14:24

that's a good laugh. Or some people I hate their

1:14:26

laugh. Tina. Mine is. Who do

1:14:28

you look up to? Who

1:14:31

do I look up to? My

1:14:33

friend Marty Cartallian, which nobody in the world

1:14:35

knows, it's fine. And

1:14:38

my friend Cheryl Hines.

1:14:42

You know, you talk about her enough. She's going to come on this

1:14:44

podcast. She is going to get her. Will you? She do it? Yeah,

1:14:46

she'll do it maybe in two weeks. I

1:14:50

love you. That

1:14:52

was a great answer. She'll do it in like two weeks. In like

1:14:54

two weeks. I guess because I'm like thinking about what she's doing right

1:14:56

now. We should go out to dinner late in two weeks. We

1:14:58

should do dinner at least two weeks from

1:15:01

now. OK. I

1:15:04

mean, I'm just buffering because it's like she's

1:15:06

got stuff. Yeah, yeah. Her husband's running for

1:15:08

president. This has been amazing. Oh, good. Did

1:15:10

you have fun? Yes. Like you're so

1:15:12

easy to talk to. I love this. Will you come back? Yeah.

1:15:14

I feel like I just talk to you about anything. Yeah. Yeah,

1:15:17

same. Ryan. It's pretty easy. It

1:15:20

was enjoyable. All right. Is it ever

1:15:22

like pulling teeth? Do you ever feel like? Sure. The

1:15:25

next one. I pull

1:15:27

teeth right out of my mouth. She's

1:15:32

awesome. And she's so adorable. I just I loved

1:15:35

having her on the podcast. I

1:15:37

didn't know her and I'm

1:15:39

glad I got to know her. I feel like I

1:15:41

know her. Don't you feel like you know, Rachel? She

1:15:43

was really cool to have. Yeah, I think you'll all

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