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to Free State, everybody. I

1:42

went for a swim at the 40

1:44

foot on Sunday morning, and

1:46

it's always an oasis of

1:49

calm and peace, even if it's quite

1:51

busy. When I became aware while

1:53

I was there of a kind of a

1:55

disturbance in the force, and I

1:57

was kind of, you know, there was a different

1:59

voice. or different things going on.

2:02

And I remembered that this was

2:04

the 50th anniversary of the famous

2:06

weekend when feminists led

2:08

by Nel McCafferty and Nula Fennell had

2:10

invaded the 40 foot, which was a

2:12

men only bathing place and with great

2:15

bravery, they went there and swam. And

2:17

now it is obviously a place where

2:19

people of all sexes

2:21

and races and nationalities

2:23

swim. So it wasn't that, but

2:26

I then noticed what it was. It

2:29

was Cork people. There

2:31

were everywhere I looked, there

2:33

were unvetted Cork

2:35

people, unvetted Cork people

2:38

all over Dublin and arriving

2:41

for the All Ireland Final. And,

2:45

you know, there were clear people around as well, but they

2:47

weren't as loud as Cork people, you

2:49

know, and like, all people do live among us now. But

2:53

they've, they've integrated. And

2:55

they've adapted. But

2:58

when, when they, when they arrive

3:00

on mass like this, they

3:03

are unwilling, I find,

3:05

to, to, to in any way,

3:07

compromise their, their Corkness. I

3:10

thought you were going to say when they arrive

3:12

on mass like that, you start to think that

3:14

Herman Kelly has a point. But

3:17

it was, I have to say it was one

3:19

of those mornings, Sunday morning in Dublin, wherever

3:22

you were in Dublin was one of those mornings

3:24

of just kind of spine tingling

3:27

excitement. And like all these things, you know, I

3:29

am a bit of a sentimentalist and, you know,

3:31

you get nostalgic and it just reminded me of

3:33

all the All Ireland's when my,

3:35

you know, my uncles and stuff would be

3:37

heading, heading up from the country for, for

3:39

the match, you know, and arriving and staying

3:42

sleeping wherever they could, finding beds wherever they

3:44

could in Dublin for the night. And

3:47

just that's tremendous sense of

3:49

anticipation that you get in

3:52

a place like Dublin because

3:55

everybody knows what's going on

3:57

and everybody talks about the same things. And it

3:59

was really. really

4:01

tremendous feeling on Sunday morning, even with

4:03

all the Cork people. I remember years

4:06

and years and years ago going to an open

4:08

mic night and they, you

4:12

know, it's down in Dublin city centre, they're

4:14

off, Dm Lane, they have

4:16

a comedy night there. Andrews

4:19

Lane is it? No, it's a pub,

4:21

big pub, big black pub, but it

4:23

has a comedy night. The fellow was

4:25

from Cork and he says, well, no,

4:27

he said, I went out with a

4:29

woman last night. He said she

4:31

was so ugly, you wouldn't get up enough to watch the monster, Herlin final.

4:34

And there was a great guffawing, you know, it's

4:36

been sort of the late 80s, early 90s. You

4:39

can tell that took now. But

4:41

actually I'm going holiday in Cork next week. I want to

4:43

take back everything I've just said. But

4:46

it was, it was, I love the people of Cork.

4:48

Yeah. But it was being

4:51

the Allerlin final, Allerlin, Herlin final day.

4:53

What a privilege I was there with

4:55

my youngest son, who's the captain of

4:57

the, of his club minor, Herlin

4:59

team. And, you

5:02

know, watching him at that age, you

5:04

know, 17, revelling

5:07

in this day of

5:09

days. And you

5:12

know, Stephen

5:15

King said recently, you know, the

5:17

famous Oscar, he said that, you

5:20

know, the problem is now that we are addicted to

5:24

nothing, you know, we're addicted to Facebook,

5:27

Twitter and to Instagram. And

5:31

you know, I know I've made the point

5:33

before, but without the GAA, our world would

5:35

be as boring as everyone else. And,

5:39

and sort of, you know, even

5:42

if modern modern GAA, punditry

5:44

and managerial interviews are

5:47

on a par with sort of standing up in public

5:49

and reading from a dictionary. The

5:52

funny thing about our

5:55

community, the GAA community, is that the people who

5:59

are paid talk about the game nowadays, might

6:01

be as dull as a Tory party conference.

6:06

But, but the GA community is,

6:09

is so vibrant. So together is such

6:11

a sense of loyalty and togetherness and

6:14

are such great fun with it. Hmm.

6:17

And I mean, yesterday

6:21

at the game, you know, one of the really

6:24

striking things that must be for people from abroad,

6:27

let's say, let's say from the soccer tradition, I

6:29

mean, you were making the point after

6:33

England were beaten in the Euros in the podcast

6:35

last week, that women's aid

6:38

statistics in England are that after

6:40

an English soccer team is defeated

6:42

in a major championship, there's

6:45

a 28% spike in domestic violence.

6:48

And, you know, there's a website called

6:50

football fights. And last week in

6:52

the aftermath of England's defeat, you

6:55

know, and on the evening of the match

6:57

from pubs all over England, you know, video

7:00

clips are sent in of just this horrific

7:03

fighting and serious assaults and women being

7:05

punched to the ground. And

7:10

after the game yesterday, and I didn't

7:12

take any drink yesterday cause I was

7:14

driving and I wanted to just, like

7:17

it's brilliant to take drink at the matches. I love it, but

7:20

sometimes also it's great just to have a

7:22

clear head and revel in it. And

7:24

after the match, you

7:28

know, the Cork people were just so devastated.

7:30

You know, I was sitting amongst Cork and

7:32

Clear people. In fact, Martin Brazel, the famous

7:35

Clear horse trainer was sitting beside me,

7:39

you know, and so, I mean, they were just so at

7:41

the end of the league. It

7:43

was, you know, a relation that is

7:45

difficult to describe. Yeah. And,

7:47

but in their relation, there

7:50

was no triumphalism. That's just the way the GAA is.

7:52

So the Cork people afterwards, we were trying to get

7:54

away early cause I wanted to get back up the

7:56

road and there were

7:58

thousands of Cork people. people silently streaming

8:01

up to Ramchandra, thousands and thousands of

8:03

them, you know, it was hardly a

8:05

word being spoken. Yeah.

8:08

And and. In

8:10

the middle of them, there was a group of clear people, all

8:13

fun and chatter and a core car,

8:16

you know, one of these cars

8:18

that a supporter has painstakingly painted

8:20

and the core colors with images

8:22

of some of the great core

8:25

colors and an image of Pat

8:27

Horgan and all that. He

8:29

was he was trying to get out from one

8:31

of the side routes onto Ramchandra as the clear

8:34

supporter from past and they spotted him and

8:36

they went over to. And he

8:38

said, I listen, I

8:40

know it's a big ask. Was there any chance we could

8:42

get a photograph beside the car? And

8:44

he got out and he says, no problem at all. He

8:46

says, and he shook hands with him. He said, you have

8:49

a magnificent team and a magnificent victory today. And

8:52

and they got some of the

8:54

other core supporters who were coming past to take

8:56

the photographs of them at the core car. And

9:00

that sense of togetherness and community, you

9:02

know, and I know I've mentioned me

9:04

and my father's great line, you know,

9:06

if it wasn't for the GAA would

9:08

be savages like the English. But that

9:10

sort of, you know.

9:14

Sense of civilization that

9:17

we have in Ireland is matchless, you know,

9:19

and I think as expressed by our Uchtra

9:21

and Charles Burns afterwards, maybe

9:23

talk about that in a while, but. All

9:29

I heard of the family, I don't know how you would

9:31

describe it. I mean, you wouldn't have to have any interest

9:33

in sport to be completely captivated

9:36

by it. Well,

9:38

it is an extraordinary thing. I think Dennis

9:40

Walsh in the Irish Times and one

9:43

day described it as mesmerizing chaos,

9:46

and I think that's probably gets

9:48

as close to it as it is. And I think

9:50

that's what allows people.

9:54

You can kind of you

9:56

can just plug into it straight away. And, you

9:58

know, like it's also. relentless and I remember

10:01

going to a Waterford Kilkenny

10:03

match a few years ago in Turliss

10:05

and you know, that sense again,

10:08

I have, like, I remember hurling as a kid and

10:10

it wasn't at the same ferocity and

10:12

pace like that, you know,

10:14

the money points were, were cork up

10:16

on Sunday. There were eight points clear

10:18

at one point or seven points clear.

10:22

And, uh, and you know, and you kind of think, Oh,

10:24

that's like, this is going to be one sided that's

10:26

that. And then in an instant it's

10:29

gone again. And again, it's a

10:31

game because you can score like because the

10:33

players have got so strong and so athletic

10:36

and they can score from

10:38

anywhere. So it then becomes, and it is,

10:40

and it is a great kind of tragedy

10:42

of it. Then becomes a game about, about

10:44

it's almost not a game about the chances

10:46

you take it's about the misses. It's

10:49

about the, it's like, and you know, I'm

10:51

like encapsulated in, in, on Sunday's match by

10:54

the moment at the very end when

10:56

your court miss a chance to equalize again

10:58

and go to a replay.

11:00

And you know, they should have had her,

11:03

had her free, but like it is, it

11:05

is just big, it just boils down to

11:07

those moments when somebody misses because people

11:09

can score from anywhere and it's just relentless.

11:13

The, the, the phrase that goes around in my mind,

11:15

the, I'm watching the Harlem is

11:17

that it's immune to scientific takeover. No,

11:20

it's immune. It's immune to the sort of

11:23

professional coaching class, taking it over.

11:26

I mean, in the end, in the

11:28

end, you can either do what Tony Kelly can

11:30

do, or you can't, you

11:33

know, I mean, sure the players have,

11:35

you know, much more sophisticated

11:37

training regimes, now fitness, nutrition,

11:40

all those things, but

11:43

hurling is immune

11:47

to being destroyed by

11:50

the coaching classes. You

11:52

know, I mean, you can do simple things yesterday.

11:54

Like, for example, you know, you can, you can

11:56

have aids. Like, I don't know if you noticed

11:58

the Cork, Harlan keeper warming up. up, but I

12:00

saw that. Yeah. They could, the coach who was

12:03

warming up with him had a small, say let's

12:05

say it was maybe a meter

12:07

wide by a meter

12:09

deep, a small trampoline. And he was

12:11

holding that to the court keeper was

12:14

patterned, the slither off that. And then it was coming

12:17

back very quickly to me. He was having to react

12:19

and then back to the trampoline, things

12:21

like that. But because

12:23

the game ultimately establishes

12:27

its own rules, you

12:29

know, it, it mostly played with

12:31

ferocity. It mostly played with

12:34

great skill. You know, you can either hurt

12:36

or you can't, you know, I

12:38

mean, used to me, Liam Henry from Dungevin, he was

12:40

a village man. He married me at Mary Kay. He

12:42

always said that the football was for boys who couldn't

12:44

hurl. You

12:47

know? Yeah. And, and I mean,

12:50

I, I don't know if you, if

12:52

you saw this week, Shane

12:55

Mangan is a

12:58

respected sports scientist, performance analyst

13:00

and Yalig football coach. Okay.

13:04

That's self described. That's not fair.

13:06

He also has in his bar,

13:08

but he's got a PhD in

13:10

sports science, but

13:13

he, he had

13:16

a video, an overhead video of a training session

13:18

taken from a drone with the

13:20

caption, this 13 V 13 F S F S G was 160% of

13:22

high speed matchplay demands

13:26

drones are excellent for reviewing training sessions

13:28

in real time or post session. They

13:30

provide better visibility of space compared to

13:32

ground level, share videos and drawings with

13:34

players after on a platform like at

13:36

huddle. And

13:38

we wonder why Gaelic football

13:40

has become so boring. But

13:45

it's not just because again, the game,

13:47

as you say, the games are very,

13:49

it's very easy to stop people scoring

13:51

in Gaelic football and it's very hard

13:53

to stop people scoring in hurling. So

13:55

once you like, I, I, I'm smarter,

13:58

I'm the must be people. You say

14:00

it's immune to that coaching

14:03

invasion. But I imagine there are people thinking if

14:05

we could find a way of stopping people from

14:07

scoring as often as they do, we would. But

14:11

that's not to say, Bob. I mean, I'm

14:13

not sure to make this point clear, but

14:18

my point is it's immune to scientific takeover.

14:20

I mean, Gaelic football now has been destroyed

14:22

by science in the business of coaching. You

14:24

know, it's virtually unwatchable now, and I'll come

14:26

back to that. But in

14:28

hurling, sure, you know,

14:30

you can, you know, you can

14:33

give some assistance to players, you

14:35

know, you can, you can be clever

14:37

about your game plans, you

14:39

know, but in the end, in the end, you

14:42

know, you cannot regulate and make

14:44

hurling formulaic. I mean, yesterday, from

14:47

start to finish, from the moment the ball was

14:49

thrown in, I mean,

14:52

it, it reminded me of

14:54

old Gaelic football championship matches that

14:56

I played in. It was just madness.

14:58

I mean, and of course there's a

15:01

control with it, but in the

15:03

end, it's about the glory of sport,

15:06

you know, which Gaelic football used to be, you

15:08

know, obviously never as good a game as hurling

15:10

because it's not capable to have a game that's

15:12

as good as hurling. I mean, hurling is the

15:14

Apogee, the pinnacle. And I remember when I made

15:16

the boo for dairy hurlers, the

15:19

manager, yeah, after about 20 minutes, Liam

15:21

Hintry called me over. And

15:24

he said, Joe, son, he said, do

15:28

yourself a favour. He said, kick the second thing. And,

15:33

and, and I was

15:35

very, I was very good at kicking goals. I mean,

15:37

I, I, I kicked, I

15:39

kicked a goal once in a championship, finally to

15:41

beat LaVie, who were the

15:43

sort of the kingpins of Ulster at that

15:45

stage. And anyway,

15:49

the, the, I was classic example

15:51

of him face, you know,

15:54

theory that football was for

15:56

fellows who couldn't hold. the

18:00

equalizer was a magnificent long range point, Kieran

18:02

Donny, and then Cluckston with

18:04

the winning three, the last kick of the game. And

18:08

even watching that in the television and seeing

18:11

how young they all were and how just,

18:14

just, I mean, I texted

18:16

Michael Darr and O'Cauley afterwards, texted

18:19

Tomás and I rang Philly

18:21

MacMahon who never answers. And he said, is it

18:23

important? I said no, I was the end

18:25

of it. He never came back. I

18:27

just wanted to say like, what a joy it was

18:30

to see all that. But now, you

18:32

know, where is

18:34

the identity of Gaelic football? You

18:36

know, it's a modern Gaelic football

18:39

teams, a factory, the manager supervises the conveyor

18:41

belt. I mean, I heard Kieran McGinney and

18:43

I'm delighted our man on the final and

18:45

I'll be supporting our man 100% in the

18:47

final this Sunday. McGinney said, ah, you know,

18:49

we, we watch old games, you know, and

18:51

the boys just laugh at them. Well,

18:54

nobody's fucking laughing at modern Gaelic football

18:56

matches, you know, and nobody's cheering

18:58

and shouting and getting off their seats and roaring

19:00

the way we did, the way

19:02

we did with the 2002 Armada team when

19:04

they made their breakthrough. No,

19:07

no, it's,

19:09

it's a dull routine. And

19:11

you know, this only slips away from that.

19:14

When there's kind of, when some one side

19:16

feels that they've got nothing left to lose

19:18

or they have to go for, like there

19:20

is ultimately, and you, we saw

19:22

it in the semi-finals of it, didn't you? At a

19:24

certain point it was like, okay, uh,

19:27

everything's on the line now. And again,

19:30

you have to find a way of, you

19:32

have to accept, I suppose, the Gaelic football

19:34

isn't a game that,

19:37

as you say, that, you know, a

19:39

Gaelic football is too easily manipulated by,

19:41

you know, actors off the field, if

19:43

you like, you can control it, you

19:45

can shut it down. The problem,

19:47

you know, you can't, you can't, uh,

19:49

lose possession very easily. All these things

19:51

that actually make it, um, you

19:54

know, a very easy game to be cautious

19:56

in. You can't be cautious

19:59

in hurling. as far as I can see, it's very

20:01

hard to actually like, what would you do? Would you,

20:03

if you were to look for example, Limerick are encouraged

20:07

to shoot on site. I mean, they

20:09

have multiple wides in every game. It's very

20:11

like an NBA basketball game, you know, put, put

20:13

the pressure back then go for it, go for

20:15

it, back yourself. You can't do that. And

20:17

if there's no point, there is no point

20:19

anymore in comparing the two games. You look at,

20:22

you look at the honor of final last

20:24

year, right? And I was thinking about this

20:26

during the week where it was, you know, thinking

20:28

about the vast difference between a hard

20:30

location and a philanthropic location. In

20:35

the all-room final last year, David

20:37

Clifford kicked five wides from play. Now

20:40

they were all narrow, you know, narrow.

20:42

He got absolutely excoriated and pilloried and

20:44

jokes were made about him. And,

20:47

you know, ex Dublin players, Paul, what

20:49

he called him, your pal, he writes.

20:51

Paul Flynn. Paul Flynn. Paul Flynn said

20:54

that, oh, McPherson had him in his

20:56

pocket and he did a tweet about

20:58

that. And I have

21:01

absolutely no doubt that that had a silent

21:03

effect on David Clifford. He

21:05

has been, he must be bigger. You can handle a

21:08

bit of criticism. I'm not sure. I'm not sure about

21:10

the pillory and the five wides and look, you know,

21:12

those could have won the game. And if you'd been

21:14

more careful, if he laid the ball off and you

21:16

look at, you look at how withdrawn he has been

21:19

this year when he's been a ghostly presence in the

21:21

championship against dirty. I mean, he, he,

21:23

he didn't even appear to want the ball

21:25

and he's now playing with caution. Okay.

21:28

And, and if we're able to, if we're

21:30

able to breed the sense of adventure out

21:32

of the greatest footballer of this generation, you

21:35

know, what does that tell you about the modern

21:37

game? And then in,

21:39

in the semi-finals,

21:41

for example, in

21:43

these bigger games, now a mistake or a flip

21:45

decides things. I mean, go, we got the flip,

21:47

they got the weird goal. It gives them three

21:49

points out of thin air in

21:52

the first half that didn't spark

21:54

either team to life. Don't

21:56

equal just kept doing what you're doing. We score a

21:58

point, you score a point, we score a point. they

22:00

just shuffle through their dull routines and

22:02

the crowd was mostly quiet. I

22:05

sit and absorb this and I

22:07

watch it. I mean, when I first

22:09

went to a cricket game 20 years ago, I

22:12

marveled at how silent the crowd was.

22:14

Hmm. And they just have pleasant

22:17

chat. They cheer the odd team. They drink

22:19

a pint of bitter. Now

22:22

a cricket and gillic football crowd are indistinguishable.

22:24

I lay you a few, if

22:27

you put audio on the two

22:29

side by side and

22:31

in the, in the Galway match, nothing

22:34

happened until the 64th minute. And that's then

22:36

when, you know, the one point we score

22:38

a point, you'll score a point, we score

22:40

a point. We'd be all very, very, very

22:43

ultra cautious, you know, two good

22:45

teams, you know, good at working their routines,

22:47

terribly boring stuff. And then

22:49

Donny call had the free in the 64th minute

22:51

to go a point up and

22:53

young gallon, missed it. And

22:56

now the pressure was on Donny go all because

22:58

go, we got the next point. And

23:01

in the last 10 minutes when they were behind Donny

23:03

go all were on April, like

23:05

most teams are to break out from their

23:07

endlessly rehearsed routine. In the last seven,

23:11

eight minutes and the Kerry dairy

23:13

match when dairy were five points behind, they

23:15

continued to play with color glass at

23:17

the center of the dairy defense. One

23:20

of our most adventurous best players. And

23:23

the problem with

23:25

this type of football, because I used to

23:28

think when I was reading, you know, the

23:30

great sport and philosophers or books about sports

23:32

that, that a lot of it was

23:34

rhetoric. You see, because

23:36

it just to never apply to our games,

23:38

Gaelic football and Herlin were hugely

23:40

exciting, you know, vast collisions, you

23:42

know, a lot of physical contact

23:45

players expressing their emotions. But the

23:47

problem with what's happening with Gaelic

23:49

football now is that players

23:52

have to force themselves to conform to

23:55

these carefully rehearsed systems. And

23:57

that means they have to restrain their emotions.

24:01

When you're restraining your emotions, then you get

24:03

this dull stuff that we get. I mean,

24:07

they're preoccupied with not making mistakes.

24:09

And this it's, it's uncannily

24:11

like modern soccer. I mean, you

24:13

watch the euros almost every game,

24:16

one, one, one, no, go into

24:19

extra time, go into penalties.

24:22

And like that, like that, right? The GA just what

24:25

you said, the gill gill games

24:27

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like four of these. I mean, it's unlimited premium. If

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it was that easy, they'd be doing it already. They'd

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be kicking them from 40 meters already, you

28:05

know, and all these artificial solutions to the

28:07

problem when, when the solution is staring

28:09

us in the face. But the

28:13

modern Gaelic football has become so like

28:15

soccer. The key is not to lose

28:17

taking the game to penalties. Getting a

28:19

draw is a good outcome. And you'll

28:21

notice the bookies are already realizing this

28:24

odds on a draw and the bigger

28:26

games in Gaelic football are becoming less

28:28

and less generous all the time. And

28:30

the only reason, and I want to

28:32

make this point this week, especially because

28:34

I feel very strongly about it and

28:36

I feel very strongly that Armagh can

28:38

win this All Ireland if

28:40

they do this. The only reason Armagh

28:43

are in the All-Ireland Final is

28:45

that in the 54th minute of

28:48

their, at that point, extremely dull

28:50

play to the script, semi-final

28:53

against Kerry, was that an

28:55

event occurred out of the

28:57

blue that caused them to release their fanaticism.

29:01

And that was the ball coming back

29:03

off the key keeper and Barry McKimbridge

29:05

opportunistically punching a magnificent goal from distance

29:08

to the bottom quarter before the keeper had even realized

29:10

he was doing it. I mean,

29:13

for the first half Armagh played to let's call

29:15

it the system. And that's the same system that

29:17

lost them the last two Ulster finals, their

29:20

last three or four big games in Crook Park. This

29:22

ultra cautious, you score a point, we score a point,

29:24

you score a point, we score a point system where

29:28

the coaches use drones and

29:30

show the players the results via video clips

29:33

and diagrams on the at huddle

29:35

system. By half time

29:37

the score in that match was 10-6. And

29:41

then Sean O'Shea scored a three and

29:44

it was as I described it, a pleasant ripple

29:46

of applause in the manner of the edge, bastards

29:48

and crowd clapping a beautifully struck four. You'd appreciate

29:50

that. Yeah. And

29:52

once that ball was punched to the net straight after

29:55

that, suddenly the Armagh

29:57

boys awoke from their scientific slumber.

30:00

And they were reminded that an

30:02

all-Ireland semi-final is a once-in-a-lifetime experience

30:04

for most of us outside of

30:06

Kerry and Dublin and Limerick and

30:08

Kilkenny. And suddenly

30:12

Armagh ditched the formula that

30:14

that has ruined Gaelic football. You

30:17

know, in every game this year,

30:19

you know, there was a guttural

30:21

explosion from the Armagh supporters. The

30:24

players were electrified. And now, like

30:26

the hurling yesterday throughout, they were alive.

30:29

Human beings revel in their skill, power, the

30:31

thrill of the battle. Look,

30:34

we can talk more on Thursday about what's

30:37

going to happen in the football on Sunday because that's... Do you

30:39

know what made me think about all this? You

30:43

sending me

30:46

all of that material

30:48

about the legendary

30:50

soccer coach and sporting philosopher Marcelo Bielsa.

30:52

Oh, yeah. I mean, it

30:54

just... For

30:57

me, he might as well have been

30:59

talking about Gaelic football. No, I know.

31:01

And it's funny. And people like that was...

31:03

He was managing Uruguay to cop America. I

31:05

mean, talk about Bielsa, I think, on Thursday

31:07

too, because I think it is worth looking

31:09

ahead to what's happening on Sunday

31:11

then. But I want to talk about another

31:13

sporting philosopher. I want to talk about Charlotte

31:16

Burns today

31:18

because, you know, we're

31:20

both friends with Charlotte.

31:22

We've become friends through

31:24

very different paths. But

31:27

I think actually, in some

31:29

ways, I think the fact

31:32

that we both have a

31:34

friendship with Charlotte sums

31:37

up the man. It was good to say he...

31:39

I was going to say he asks about you all the time.

31:41

But then I thought, you know, he comes straight back and say,

31:43

funny, he never asked about you. But

31:47

he does. He asks about you all the time. I

31:49

think he's curious. Like

31:51

a lot of people, I think he can't really figure you out.

31:54

You mean you're not easy to figure out? I'm

31:56

not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. You were

31:59

talking about you were there in the fifth... I

32:01

was going to, at some great sporting collision, no

32:03

one, it was like feminists descending on a, on

32:05

a, on a, on a, on a swimming baths

32:07

and on a swimming baths. And

32:09

so Dublin. But I was, I

32:13

was thinking about, uh, when you're talking

32:15

about Cork and that I remember, I

32:17

mentioned this in the podcast before being

32:20

at the, uh, the, the hundred, the

32:22

centenary final in Parlus in 1984 when

32:25

awfully played Cork and lost to Cork

32:28

and, uh, that sense of, of,

32:30

of grace. I remember talking, I was just a

32:32

kid and I went along with my uncles and,

32:34

uh, awfully got

32:36

hammered that, that day. Um,

32:39

but I remember talking, there was a

32:41

reception for the team of the century

32:44

that afterwards and Jack, Jack Lynch was

32:46

there, you know, and Jack Lynch had

32:48

been named in the team of centuries,

32:50

retired from politics at that stage. And

32:52

I got his autograph and I

32:54

said to him, you were lucky today. Now I

32:56

can't remember the score, but Cork hammered awfully and

32:59

he just very gently, but not in a body

33:01

just now we were, so we got lucky against.

33:05

He got lucky against tip, but like,

33:07

never the nastiness or the triumphalism, you

33:09

know, and, but it was one

33:11

of those moments you always remember. Um,

33:14

and, uh, and I think that's

33:16

like, you see it now and I think now, like

33:18

I, I, not as interested in

33:20

putting this into kind of compare and contrast

33:23

world. Cause I think one of the

33:25

things that matters to people about sport

33:27

is that whatever community it is, that

33:29

sense of community. And I felt it

33:31

yesterday that sense. And I was talking

33:33

to my, my aunt today about, and

33:35

she was so happy. Claire had won

33:37

because she's from awfully. And

33:40

that sense of the underdog winning, uh,

33:43

is your matters in those counties where, you

33:46

know, where they, they have the occasion and

33:48

Claire and awfully would have had very similar

33:51

kind of trajectories of, you know, the, you

33:53

know, the occasional, you know, uh,

33:55

when the fairs were possibly

33:57

more romantic, but they were still that.

33:59

sense of the underdog triumphing and Cork,

34:01

you know, as I say, I'm going

34:03

on holiday next week to Cork. I

34:05

love Cork very much. They're

34:08

sort of an underdog as well. I mean,

34:10

it's almost 20 years since they won a

34:12

since they've won an extraordinary thing. But,

34:15

but I think Jarlath then as well, he

34:17

really, he encapsulates

34:20

something that's extraordinary.

34:23

He can articulate what we are because

34:25

he is of that and he has

34:27

heart and soul, you know, the GA

34:30

community plays bridge down in the club

34:32

with elderly members of the club to a three

34:34

nights a week. You know, he

34:36

still works out the pitches. He's lines man,

34:38

when he's required his own power, when he's

34:40

required, he still, he still,

34:43

uh, trade prominently involved with club,

34:45

even though, I mean, as a

34:47

jutee as president of the G.

34:49

I mean, he, but he's a

34:51

huge hinterland. He's absolutely brilliant. But

34:53

I took Peter Oborn when I

34:56

went to Bessbrook and we're going

34:58

to see Peter Oborn ourselves this week at a cricket

35:00

match. But I took Peter

35:02

Oborn to meet him when we went to

35:05

Bessbrook to make a video about Brexit

35:07

years ago, when we went into the

35:09

school to interview Jarlath. And

35:12

they ended up having a

35:14

very long conversation about, about

35:16

St. Paul and

35:19

Jarlath and Peter Oborn had this

35:21

magnificent conversation for about 45 minutes.

35:24

Uh, and it was fascinating, you know,

35:26

and he's got, I went

35:28

to see Christie Moore with him in Armagh

35:30

one night, like, and he, Jarlath knows everything

35:33

about Christie's back catalogue. He'd be, I think,

35:35

I think, like, people who don't drink have

35:37

a lot more time to think about things

35:39

and enjoy things. No, but I mean that

35:42

sincerely, because you know, drinking takes over. But,

35:44

you know, watching what was happening in

35:47

America this week and contrasting it with,

35:49

with, with our society. I mean,

35:52

Trump, I mean, I noticed Donald Trump this week saying

35:54

that he was going to, I don't

35:58

know how you would describe it. He said he was going to

36:00

bring back cement. Maybe

36:06

we'll just play

36:10

that and

36:13

you've got Marjorie

36:16

Taylor Greene saying that

36:21

she noticed just a

36:24

few seconds before Donald Trump

36:26

was shot that

36:28

the American flag above him

36:31

turned into an angel and

36:33

it came down on him and

36:35

protected him. Obviously

36:37

an angel that likes people

36:41

who like pornography

36:43

I suppose. Then

36:47

you've got these people Tucker

36:49

Carson talking about, oh Ireland's

36:52

now overrun, it's a third

36:55

world country overrun with Africans

36:57

and immigrants. Then you

36:59

hear our president yesterday in

37:02

a huge multicultural stadium with

37:11

people of all faiths and none there.

37:14

In an organization that's had

37:16

Protestant presidents, that's got

37:18

increasing numbers of people from all

37:21

countries around the world, beleaguered countries,

37:23

you hear him talking in

37:26

Croke Park and you think to yourself,

37:32

it is good, it

37:34

is very very good to be

37:36

Irish. of

38:00

their county and their parish and next

38:03

week they will be playing for their

38:05

clubs. We are proud of every single

38:07

one of you. For

38:09

those people who are already aspirated, who

38:12

left this country because of war and

38:14

famine and for your ancestors had to

38:16

leave it, we are thinking of

38:19

you today as you watch us. You are in front

38:21

part today, if not in body but

38:23

in spirit and we thank the countries who

38:26

took you in and gave you jobs and

38:28

allowed you to make a union for yourselves

38:30

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